derrylynne

You are not alone. I have been very depressed with this and yearn for warm weather now. Worse nothing is growing. No weeds, grass, leaves on trees. I have never known this ever.

No way. I live about three miles from Tonyrefail and it is far too warm with dew points too warm also. Wishful thinking Butt.

What is that system building up near jersey and France. The streamer appears to be moving west. While cut off from where it starts. Instead being replaced with a swirling system that maybe heading up to us. While over the Irish sea cloud is dispersing. Anybody know that is going on because this seems to be unexpected...

I really do not think this snow is going to leave that much. If you look you can see the snow belt is filling and breaking up. Pressure is also building and it is moving along quite smartly. My educated guess is at most a couple of inches, maybe two and you will be lucky. The snow is though getting lighter with time and will mostly have petered out by morning. The Atlantic looks like making inroads at the weekend when attention once again will turn to flooding. But, we have had a couple of weeks of winter.

looking at the radar and seeing it marching west still at a pace, after reaching Cardiff, think that will be totally wrong. Looking at Derek's chart it shows the snow did not even reach Llantrisant or Pontypridd so what happened? Unless this is going to magically do one, I cannot see how it cannot possibly get to Swansea and beyond.

That inexact that when snow is falling we are told it is dry and going to remain so. Even if the radar is showing precipitation. Also that inexact that even though most can see the developement in France and where it is going, and that heavy snow if probably going to be the result. The warning are left till the very last minute. Sorry but with millions of pounds worth of hardware this really should not happen;. I think too much reliance is given on computers nowadays. More should be given with the human touch. There are many on this site that are far more accurate than the met office machines. Inexact or not.

What weather warnings. The met office is a disgrace. The forecast this morning was not for snow here in south Wales but ice. Even now with a great big lump moving out of France and now crossing Southern England, heading for us, there is no warning at all. If this is going to be all rain fine. But if it is very heavy snow. An utter disgrace..

But there is no agreement in models. And a week off is far too far away. That will change nearer the 25th for sure. I am not saying it will not get warmer. But that this is not set in stone. After all. The GFS has been saying we are going to get warmer since about the 12th.

pretty sure it will move into the Rhondda as snow. Temperature at the moment 2C. Dew points below zero. And both falling. so looks like when I wake it will be to falling snow. should be a fun day if nothing else.

Must admit I am sitting watching this with interest. The radar too. As I am in the 'red' area would be real egg if this turned out to be a sleet or rain event. No reports though of this being snow in Wales. so will stay up a little late to see if anything happens as the precipitation hits the higher ground. I am though at a loss to see how the meto can give us a red warning, and a quite small area of wales, and the only part the UK to get that. There must be a reason but cannot work out what.

A red warning has been issued for us in the upper Rhondda and heads of the valleys. What is missing with the met office red warning, one I have never seen before, is more detail of the areas that are going to be well stuffed.

given the amount of snow that is probably going to fall up here in the upper Rhondda and many parts of Wales, and that the front looks like stalling over Wales before slipping away I think that is more than probable. There could be an upgrade snowwise as a low pressure is expected to form over ireland and this is likely to slip down over wales on it's way south east. Imagine how much snow that will leave. Could be the worse snow, with winds this will be whipped up into large drifts, than we have seen for a long time. I notice that the snow is not likely to get over to the east of the uk now and amounts there will be small. Unless for them there is an upgrade. Will be an interesting day tomorrow.

Just watched Carol Kirkwood give today's forecaste. She showed us the light rain in Wales!!!! Have tweeted her. It has snowed most the night here in the upper Rhondda, is still snowing and looks very Christmas card. Only a light covering so no distruption but wish the BBC would get their forecast right. Tomorrow looking like a classic from the old day of the 60's to 80's when blizzards would hit the west because of warm fronts hitting a huge blocking cold. Enjoy guys. This has not happened for a very long time. The East and South East of England may get very little, if any tomorrow though..

I see no balance here. In fact we have already had early blizzard alerts here in wales. It is often the case with these kind of synoptics the warm air is stalled. And could be stalled over wales and the Sw before sliding away. Time will tell but Wales is very much in the line of fire. Even if it snows hard then turns to rain for a short time before reverting to snow again. My thoughts are that I have seen these kind of chars all too often back in the 70's and 80's and in many case the cold wins hands down. Will have an even better idea this time tomorrow.

I don't think I have ever known the models not only disagree so much. But also to flip flop from often run to run like they are doing. There has to be some variable out there that is confusing the programming. All I can think it is the stratosphere doing it. My view is anything can happen and take anything more than 48 hours as a pinch of salt.