Fiona Robertson

Looks like Kathleen is winding herself up. Screenies grabbed at about 12:50 BST

jmp223 Best I've been able to figure is it's all to do with a strong inflow of cold air entering from the N/NW just as the low exited the jet stream and slamming into it. The warm side of the front was very warm so the temp diff between the two was big. So I think my answer is that it's because popped out of the jet stream just where the angle and position of the cold air streaming down over Greenland would slam straight into it. I'd love to hear from anyone willing to try to work out how it may have behaved had it popped out further west or further east than it did. As an aside, when the cold front passed over me conditions were brutal for maybe 3-4 minutes with torrential rain, a veritable wall of hail and enormous wind gusts. It scared me. I'm no weather professional, at best I'm an enthusiastic, if incompetent, amateur. The only thing I was able to find on a very cursory search was this.

Something's not right on the MetO site. I just lookedup Kinlochewe and got this. There is no way it has a high of 27C!

@Nick123 Oh, good grief! Not what I wanted to hear. I'm hoping it's a tad weaker, but the direction of the winds can have a big effect on the Central Belt wind tunnel. GFS has it a little weaker so I'm pinning my hopes on that.

Winds just starting to pick up here again.

Even after looking at warning maps for years, this one is clear as mud. Is Edinburgh in the yellow wind or yellow rain warning? Turns out it's in the yellow wind warning and I only found that by scrolling the list of places under the matrix. Slapping both of the labels on the small area of yellow rain warning and putting the rain label further east although it's the wind warning that reaches further eastis counter-intuitive. All that aside, Jocelyn doesn't look as scary as she did yesty afternoon, but still nasty. The winds are picking up here already.

Can someone have a look at the video on meteoblue? If you look at the area of squally stuff coming in, you can see a small area of circulation NW of Scotland,just less than halfway to Iceland. On the left hand side of it there looks to be an air mass plunging south east into the squallsand the combination ofthat and the circulating area looks to be lining up the squallsinto squall lines. The NE edge of Jocelyn is squishing itfurther. Might be of absolutely no importance, but it looks kewel! Weather Satellite Images: United Kingdom WWW.METEOBLUE.COM Discover high-resolution weather satellite images for United Kingdom. ✓ Live data ✓ Cloud movements ✓ Precipitation

The squalls coming in on the back of Isha have been fierce. Me and my chainsaw are dodging them. Thunder was too close for comfort, think there might have been a lightning strike about quarter of a mile from me. There was a definite CRACK! quality to it rather than the usual rumbling.

One of the things I dimly remember is the phenomenon of trees surviving horrendous winds and then coming down the following week in much lesser winds. It's down to the loosening of their rootballs in the first storm along with the action of rainwater in the newly formed air spaces. I'm expecting Jocelyn to bring down trees that survived Isha cos of this.

Leave the horses outta this! Mine are looking miserable cos the gusts with the squalls are blowing the rain into their stables. Jocelyn has me worried. I have what remains of daylight between the squalls to chainsaw one downed small tree and one partially downed large hawthorn bush. If I don't get the hawthorn, Jocelyn will and will take out my fence with it. Looking at the video on meteoblue of Jocelyn curling up is rather hair-raising. She seems more organised than Isha was at this stage. Does that mean that there's a chance Jocelyn will be past her strongest when she reaches us or does it mean she might be even stronger? Excuse me for asking such a dumb question, but I'm clutching at straws here.

Um... this doesn't look good.

That map is interesting. There were two separate amber warnings. South of the line on your map the wording said roof tiles may blow off. North of the line it said roofs may blow off. Both were amber warnings, but the wording was different. I remember this difference in wording because the northern one initially ended to the north of me, but then got extended south into northern England. Even within one warning type there is nuance which is found in the wording and the matrix.

Then be thankful that you were spared the worst. Remember, the MetO has to deal with probabilities. They gave you a heads-up that you might get conditions warranting an amber, but they didn't promise them.

I keep bringing it up, so here's my bird cherry. It was my favourite tree in the garden. It wasn't big, but it was old.

I dug my drainage ditch in a lull in the winds as the warning alerted me of worse to come. I didn't check on the horses every hour through the night as I deemed it too dangerous to go wandering under my bird cherry and the huge beech trees that surround me. Thus, I may have avoided being under the bird cherry when it came down. I say "may" because I have no idea at what time it came down. I also avoided being flattened by the many beech tree branches that came down. In a yellow warning I would have checked on the horses hourly, all night. As it was, I confined myself to checking that the stables were still standing through a side window.

I think that's what's bothering me the most. I know it's daft, but I was really fond of that bird cherry and to see it lying in the garden was a gut punch. The only damage it caused when it fell was to a weird variety of buddleja that I adore, but it'll recover. The house is fine, the stables are fine. My major worry is a hawthorn which is still in the process of uprooting at the side of the house. Our gusts are still pretty bad and they get worse every time a squall comes over. I checked the rainfall radar to work out if there was a safe time for me to be messing about with my chainsaw and the answer seems to be no. There are some squalls heading towards you and there's been some lightning strikes well to the west of you. That means they're heading towards me as well and I do NOT want to be out in that with my battery-powered chainsaw surrounded by tall trees 600ft above sea level.

Then I'll refrain from posting ANYTHING about damage to avoid being diagnosed.

Salsburgh recorded a gust of 84mph. Elevation is 750-odd ft on the windward side of a hill. I'm on the lee side at 600-odd ft, so may have got a little protection. The high voltage rail lines were clobbered by damaged branches about 6pm-ish, before the worst even arrived. I saw the tree on fire at the bottom of the garden. Rail workers seemed to be out most of the night dealing with it. I have a feeling that the recent run of high winds have damaged some usually strong trees and last night was the final straw.

Thank you. Without the extension of the more severe amber warning yesty (from "roof tiles may blow off" to "roofs may blow off"), I would have been out checking on the horses all night. As it was I made the decision that it was too dangerous and that may be the only reason I didn't end up under the bird cherry when it came down or hit by the multiple branches of beech trees that snapped. The horses are fine, but so nervous that they're dangerous, the roof tiles and roof are intact, the chimney stack is still there.

I'll answer for me. YES!

Thank you for writing the post I was getting ready to write until I came across yours. Even during the approach of the storm I was becoming irritated that some seem to expect warning areas to be precise to within a few metres and the assumption that the warned-of weather is guaranteed. It is a warning, it uses terminology like probability, possibility, may, chance of... tentative language @DJ Fart I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't intend to suggest that there may be peeps on here lying to get attention. I'm glad that you suffered no or very little damage and I'll celebrate that whilst I break out my little chainsaw to deal with the bird cherry that's come down in my garden across my front path. A quick read of the thread here demonstrates why the MetO are very wary of putting out warnings. It seems that there is a sizeable number who begrudge warnings for peeps in an area which may be about to get hit hard. This has been a theme for the last few months and I noticed it about 2 weeks after England had their October heatwave. As Scotland had a red warning for rain slapped on the east coast the complaints began, with peeps not realising that as they basked in their heatwave, that Scotland had had widespread flooding, some places were still flooded, the ground was saturated and a man had died. Sure enough,the atmospheric river hit the east coast of Scotland and peeps were flooded out of their homes again. However the complaints about Scotland's red warning stopped when a rain band from the system crossed the Midlands. Then out went the cry "We didn't get adequately warned!" The MetO can't win - they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Yes, I've been cross to get a snow warning two hours into a blizzard. Postcasts help nobody. Last night, however, the red warning was in advance, albeit by only 90-odd minutes and it was a far more uncertain situation. Maybe if peeps were better able to understand the warning system, to grasp the tentative nature of them, they'd be more inclined to thank their lucky stars when they escape the worst of the impacts instead of begrudging the warning for peeps who did get hit hard. I'm sorry, I've had a pretty much sleepless night, I'm tired, I'm fraught and I have the "delight" of going out there in a still strong wind to chainsaw my beloved bird cherry.

Winds picking up for me again,clear slot moving eastwards now and seems to be filling in.

Been watching this all day.Looks like a calmer slot has developed, meaning that you get high winds then alulland then the real strong gusts hit. Slot is currently running upIreland and the west of Scotland. I'm currently in a calmer bit.

Please check in with us all tomoz, tag me. I'm off now to dig a drainage ditch cos of flooding at the stables.

I wish I could help, but I'm clueless. I'll be thinking of you through the night.