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Hi peeps, Hope all of you are well. I threw the towel in nearly 2 weeks ago and I was right to do so as nothing has changed the outlook to anything colder. Just thought I say my final thank you to all for this season, all your posts have been a pleasure to read. I will probably be back here when we start getting our humid days and my attention turns to thunderstorms. So what do we take away from this season, well I am sure there will be many questions and scratching of heads a season which we hoped would deliver but has ended disappointed The weather will always do what it wants and we will continue trying to predict it’s outcome which as this season has proved may not play with outside factors. Thank you all once again and those who do not join the summer storm boat I hope to see you all again next winter season. all the best stay safe and finally SADLY THE SEARCH FOR OUR WINTER WONDERLAND HAS COME TO AN END regards

Hi peeps, Hope everyone is well. A wet start to the day here in NE London this morning but feels very mild. As I said in my post last Friday I was going to wait until today to see what’s in the output and then decide whether to slam the brakes for this season. Unfortunately apart from those phantom charts 9 or 10 days out I am not seeing anything in the output that convinces me a pattern change to severe winter will develop. I know I may be jumping the gun and I may be wrong but apart from the far and few odd colder periods I don’t see much hope this morning. Chasing F1 has been the story of this season and it’s been a wild goose chase. A season which a lot of experts thought had the right elements but has not delivered. I am sure there will be many unanswered questions that will be looked at. This is not a ramp or anything I just thought I put in context what I am seeing. Thank you all for your contribution and it’s been such a pleasure seeing the old regulars. I am going into hibernation now till the storm season starts for the summer. Who knows if there is a sudden change I might join back on the band wagon but for now take care all. THE SEARCH FOR OUR WINTER WONDERLAND???? regards

Scandinavian High. yes METO have not backed away from colder conditions, which I thought they will after this mornings horror show. Looks like high pressures over the east will have influence next week eventually pegging temperatures down. Atlantic weather trying to encroach at times but with this high to our east does not look like any inroad progress. More emphasis is on drier weather. Longer term outlook still emphasising colder conditions could develop.

MJB These patterns may be on offer but as it’s been the case through this season these charts are always 9 or 10 days out and they have rarely come to fruitation. Going on todays charts if we are going to honest we have seen a downgrade to what was some days ago. I think the way things are going the expectation is that eventually Met Office will adjust their update accordingly. Keeping in mind that we don’t get another sudden upgrade in the next day or so. regards

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MJB The way things are as they stand and if they don’t change I think the Met outlook will change a lot. As you say we still don’t know us coldies will always hang on and clutch to hope, but I feel time is ticking we need something to rescue us from this mess.

Well I think from this mornings horror show on the models the writing on the wall is getting darker and darker and the alarm bells are getting louder and louder. Once again the heights further south have added salt to the wounds. I have been saying all along unless those heights in the south are rid of then getting a cold pattern established is a challenge in itself. I am no expert at all but through my years I have seen many winters where outside drivers have been very favourable for cold but Iberian heights have put brakes on any cold pattern. I think there is a lot of learning still to do as to why these heights are really persistent , maybe as our location these will always be there. Anyway nothing to write home about on the output as I said last week I will give it until this Friday when it may be time to draw curtains on this winter. There’s me still hoping. For a drastic turnaround. No doubt if the output stays the same I expect a huge change in the Met outlook. regards

This is not the time we wanted to see these trends appearing especially when time is ticking and sooner than later we will be clutching any straw to find a last saloon rescue for this season. I am a bit puzzled with this evenings output something does not seem right. I am puzzled as many of you why is all the energy heading north despite blocking. Either something has triggered this or the output will be completely different come tomorrow. The chase is beginning to take its toll now we need some changes soon to come and rescue us coldies.

I don’t think until Thursdays drama clears we will have a clearer’s picture of what will happen going forward all seems to be mush mash right now. Nothing can be said for definite.

I know border line for the boundary was Birmingham Peterborough north. Will really surprise me if London comes into play which I am doubting very much at the moment. Especially when the app is saying 12 deg here for Thursday . regards

Lukesluckybunch London what am I reading this right. London might see the snow you have certainly woken me up. Has it shifted that far south???

BLAST FROM THE PAST Yes would be nice but chances looking slim at the moment but subject to change as always. My attention now focussed on whether we can get this Scandi HP and E or NE winds. Time is ticking but all to play for anything can happen come mid Feb. This would be the perfect setup with convection from the North Sea. My fingers are crossed just need the blocks to fall in place.

Lynxus Thanks mate just a shame the cold undercut is not strong enough to push that snow and further south. The waiting goes on here in London

Just a quick question wishful thinking. This Thursdays snow event, is it at all possible that if the colder air makes more of a fight the snow and could move south and put us down here in the South with some chance. I know it’s dream thinking but is that at all possible, bearing in mind it’s a evolving situation and things are changing every few hours. regards Should have said above that the front pushes south with back edge snow as the cold undercuts.

Lukesluckybunch Yes I touched on this yesterday and was hoping that eventually we will start to see a shift in the models towards high pressure setting up in Scandinavia and then easterly to northeasterly winds developing. This morning at long last there are now the first hints of maybe this dream moving in the right direction of becoming reality. It is still far out but as mentioned by a few on here tentative sights now appearing. I do hope this is a new trend as we have been led up the garden path many times chasing phantom easterlies. It is still far out until we don’t see this in the reliable best to hold firm. Also some have shown concern that it may not be a cold easterly as little cold to tap into to. I totally agree with this but once we can establish this flow there is hope the bitter cold air from the east will finally have a chance to push west ( all depends on how much energy we have and a lot of other factors) but this is my wishful thinking that although initially this flow may not have the cold element it will in time introduce much colder air from the east. All hopeful thinking let’s see how things pan out. If we are lucky I am sure eventually with this flow in time snow showers will make stage but that is a long way out yet let’s get the pattern set up first. tegards

It has been a really bizarre day I am sure many of us are going to sleep with that sinking feeling. This is not a moan post but it’s just to emphasise how strange todays output has been. With eyes up hunting cold this morning to the first warm plume this evening. Just feels now that the dark clouds have covered the horizon that showed some hope. Will tomorrow be another drama?? I am exhausted after today take care all

This is how I sum up todays output

This is really becoming interesting now. We have an ongoing situation evolving could the South out of all ofds pointers eventually come into the game. I work in Milton Keynes a little more shift south will do. It is going to be an interesting evening of output

Hi peeps, Hope everyone is well. Looks like there is going to be a lot of drama in the coming days on the models. I think at the moment everything is in the air although snow chances as it stands offering more to Midlands northwards. I am eagerly waiting here now being in NE London to see if there is any kind of hope on the horizon for us here in the south to have winter come back. I am certainly wishing and hoping that a Scandinavian high sets up and we finally get the easterlies, as those favour this part greatly. Saying that not hoping for a dry easterly either also an easterly punch also depends on the source of cold. Those lucky ones who do hit the jackpot this week good luck. Still lot to be solved and a lot of ups and downs to come. THE SEARCH FOR WINTER GOES ON Have a great day all regards

Getting mixed feeling on here again this morning is it all going to go bust or is winter coming. The questions of our whole season so far.

No need for panic guys the METO overal update is still sticking to the theme it will become colder next weekend and thereafter more chance of high pressure and longer term colder rather than milder conditions favourable with snow in N and E. if this said milder conditions returning then yes we would all be in a panic state but the cold theme is still there and hopefully still plenty of time for that to get upgraded next week. Let’s see how things pan out it’s a evolving situation so we don’t know yet what’s going to happen how much snow and cold is to come still unknown.

Pembroke Dangler lol hope not this time. I am in London and was gutted in January seeing we were so close to the snow yet so far. I was just about to give up hope for this season but the output since yesterday has calmed my nerves a bit. Can we make it to the end this time? THE SEARCH FOR OUR WINTER WONDERLAND CONTINUES

Hi peeps, Right I am going to give it just one more week to see where we are by next Friday Feb 9th. If by then we have not seen any positive swings in the output then I think it will be time done for me for this season. There’s me hoping there will be a turnaround but as things stand it looks like a fighting battle to see some good output for the reliable. Although deep down even the alarm bells are sounding but we live in that hope.

Kasim Awan Morning all, Totally agree Kasim I think the Iberian heights have been a very big issue in the boring patter we have seen recently. I am not saying it’s just the Iberian heights that are to blame for the lack of cold there are other factors as well it’s a big jigsaw, but these heights I feel make up a good part of this. The models have been hinting a change to something fresher than what we have had in the past 2 weeks however there is great uncertainty still. I think with it being the first day of February tomorrow we are all going to be getting desperate for some kind of worthwhile change to rescue what is left of this season. The desperation is more for those who are still waiting to see the first flakes. I just hope we see some kind of trigger to really push these heights away from the south, without this I feel time is going to run out . THE SEARCH FOR OUR WINTER WONDERLAND IS ENTERING THE FINAL PHASE THE HUNT GOES ON

Thanks for the update Jordan hope this pans out like you are saying possible wintry weather making more of a comeback in the second week of Feb. I must say the models are all over the place at the moment and we don’t know what exactly holds for February. Some have mentioned record warmth, I think it’s just a matter of watching what unfolds although we really need something to change fast now to give us any hope as we go into the final part of this winter. As I have been saying all season so far THE SEARCH FOR OUR WINTER WONDERLAND GOES ON