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Early run up to Winter 2021/2022 discussion
Tom Clarke replied to Mapantz's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
This isn't what is being suggested by the METO CP forecast or the other forecasts I've read on the internet, which to differing degrees say that it's early cold and a strong vortex for Jan & Feb - hence the very mild possibility being mooted. -
I think Nov 2015 was pretty mild and so were the following months. The worry for winter weather fans is that the indications were for the early part of the winter to have the best potential, with Jan/Feb potentially exceptionally mild. The possibility is there that if the remainder of Nov is mild which now looks very likely and Dec follows on, we will see records broken.
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Early run up to Winter 2021/2022 discussion
Tom Clarke replied to Mapantz's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Interesting and from my limited understanding is similar to what the CP forecast is, though probably the Met are not seeing the possibility of the Strato warming hence the very mild possibilities for Jan & Feb. -
Stratosphere and Polar Vortex Watch 2020
Tom Clarke replied to SqueakheartLW's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
This is interesting, so when we used to have much colder winter spells - 70s,80s, were they result of these SSWs - which I understand to be fairly rare ?- 1,801 replies
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Met office Contingency planners forecasts
Tom Clarke replied to Summer Sun's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Fair enough, we as planners have been privy to the Dec-Jan-Feb outlook and that is what I was referring to. -
Met office Contingency planners forecasts
Tom Clarke replied to Summer Sun's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
The 30 dayer only covers up until late November - which is not winter. Given their record, I would back the forecast they have provided as it is apparently supported by other organisations - notably the Iberian model which is highly respected and (apparently) proved to be right a few years ago when others were going for a wet Iberian winter. -
Met office Contingency planners forecasts
Tom Clarke replied to Summer Sun's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Yes, and I just think that for them to commit , in the way they have for the more detailed analysis, for the very mild potential later on, then it is likely to be significant - at least in terms of confidence of pattern if nothing else. Last winter Stratospheric developments were mentioned as a possible curveball (what I understand from reading the forum you call SSWs) but this time it was not mooted. -
Met office Contingency planners forecasts
Tom Clarke replied to Summer Sun's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Yes but they are very highly respected and what we were presented with is also supported by European agencies - perhaps quite a critical drought situation for SW Europe come the end of the winter.