WINTRY WALES

raz.org.rain Fantastic and very well explained. But being an avid skiier over the last 30 years in the alps etc... there is a considerable change in the last 10 years or so to the climate in Western Europe that seems noticeably extreme to what most of the rest of the world is experiencing.

I am not so sure, Western to central Europe, which is substantial area in size seems to have suffered a key change to some driver other or something other than the Climate change factor the rest of the world is experiencing.

Hey guys just a quick musing whilst this thread is so quiet. We have seen places in Europe ( Scandanavia) and other parts of the World like China experience very harsh and record cold Winters this year. Other parts of the World like Greece and Turkey in recent years gone by experiencing theirs too. For our small part of the globe and most of western europe it seems pretty difficult to see any prolonged decent cold weather due to repeating pressure set ups scuppering some favourable cold weather signals for it to happen. This to me seems something else maybe other than the general global climate change. Can any one expand on this and maybe help explain?

Catacol I agree….just as a seasoned skier over the last 25 years the difference in climate is extremley noticeable. Gone are the days of having to wear layers, and sure snow cover in the resort villages. Really depressing the acceleration climate change has taken on Europe it seems. Irreversible now and a worry for our future generations

But if she made the move for a warmer climate then that would indicate Tamara does have a bias towards what the weather could be. But I do value Tamara input and she has championed the clod weather this year which strengthens your point mate.

I know not strictly model related but there has been some chat about the consistent High pressure not setting up in the right place no more. After 25 years of skiing in the alps there has been a definite noticeable change to the weather. Long gone are the years of having to wear layers because of the cold. The most important thing to pack from the last 8!years or so is sun cream! Nearly always dry sunny and warm. Such a shame how our climate has changed.

Dennis Nor way will it ever happen on this island though

Another dig 80 miles or so south and south midlands south wales and West Country come in to play. Parts of London too! Is it possible!?!

Not good for us down south again tho

Will try it Blast! Spring like conditions look to be spreading from the end of the week through to end of Jan / early Feb....damn it!! Want to see snow falling from the sky

Love Austria too! Mayerhofen my favorite ski resort to date

I wouldnt mind knowing the answer to this. Travelling to Morzine and Avoriaz next week and would like to keep an eye on the forecast for snow and cold

I agree ….i know it’s not as simple as this but if there were say 8 variables required to result in uk wide snow like in the past…we need all 8. And then…what would we say we had this spell…90% of the variables favourable?? And still quite a let down. Could be a good while to have so many favourable. But in the past ….again shooting from the hip here….maybe 65-75% of the variables required for the patterns to result in the majority of the uk seeing snow. From a non teleconnections expert…and at afar this is how it seems to have panned out over recent years

Over and out on this chase ….lots of anticipation yet nothing majorly out of the ordinary. Good spot tho for those who punted for the cold a couple of weeks back

How the heck is that widespread??

I apologised…..thought it was old news! My mistake….fingers crossed guys

That was a few days ago don’t mislead people that’s not the current prognosis Sorry my mistake it looks like it is from today don’t know where they are getting that from all models showing the low going through france

Ok ok let’s all stop but please understand the moaning. If you went on a summer holiday and it was very warm but had no sunshine we would all mostly complain. Folk here understand it’s cold, maybe very cold. But we all chase the snow. Frustrating but fun. This coming week had potential, still may have. If not,it sounds like there may be more opportunities for the rest of winter where there is plenty of time left.

Not trying to moan but ignoring the teleconnection possibilities and just looking out of the window, the next week, in realism terms will be standard winter cold weather. Disappointing for now let’s hope the science comes to fruition and the next few couple of weeks gives us all something to reminisce about next year and beyond

Where are you seeing that? All pretty much look mostly dry to me, cold yes, but havent seen any widespread snow showing??

A few days ago they said based on the output at that time. Now unfortunately the output is showing it heading south into France. Still time for a change but not looking likely now sadly.

What does the blue, light green and darker green indicate??

Ahhhhhhhh we are missing out on the snow dump next week.....travelling through France now

Well that would be 7-14 days of milder weather..pretty long in my book

There was the possibility of snow for a good 24 hours and remaining cold. The vast majority on here are chasing snow, so it can be disappointing. If the low moving through France allows the cold to dig in deeper and increase the snow chances then great. Not sure that is the case though