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Azazel the end of the world possibly with global warming ?

Having avoided netweather for 5 days thought I’d check the situation. Nothing really seems to have changed . Still way above average with a February closer to an average April . Sadly I think the interest in the weather forums will die off . Let’s face it really only picks up in winter when snow is a possibility. What’s the point in looking at a load of mild rubbish for 3 months in winter . Think global warming has killed off a once exciting chase . Even the met office are out of date with the accelerating global warming occuring . Why they forecast a cold second half of February is frankly beyond credibility. I for one could see it was cobblers . A bit like the 10 day charts are always showing promise . Anyway at least it should be a warm summer

Hmmm I thought there was supposed to be a pattern change come mid February . This looks suspiciously like the same old mild sw airstream and high pressure over Spain and southern Europe that we’ve had now for about 3 weeks !

Is it time to start looking forward to spring warmth now that the weather has gone back to default mild ? I usually look for snow but feel this year has pretty much become a bust now especially now global warming has heated up Europe so much . Personally can’t see any sign of a cold spell coming from current modelling. Not particularly bothered

If this transpires we might need to start looking at the sea ice charts!

Great upgrade that on the 0z with the high early on further north and east allowing more of an easterly early on which means colder start . Even a possibility of some early snow flurries in the SE later part of the weekend . Overall the picture looks the same to me . Early Sandi high - easterly . High intensifies over UK drifts a bit south then looks like the whole pattern wants to move high pressure to Greenland. Overall excellent IMHO

Well considering I’m heading to Alps in a weeks time for a few weeks the models look great to me . It’s looking decent in UK well . The deep freeze here can wait until late January ! When I’m back

Well according to Sky news headlines we’re heading for a SSW and repeat possibly of 2010 'Sudden stratospheric warming' forecast to hit northern Europe in January - but experts unsure where it will strike NEWS.SKY.COM There is a 'greater than normal' risk of snow in January, the Met Office has warned, though forecasters say it is too soon to tell if a so-called 'sudden stratospheric warming' will plunge...

Presume we’re looking at the average red dotted line ? If so believe it shows a warming (moderate) early January ? Am. Correct . The purple line obviously goes off on one but not until April so that’s no use

So we’ve all decided the models aren’t worth looking at so who is refreshing the gfs 12z . I am one of you

If googled about the Hadley cell expansion expecting something dramatic but from what I found it’s only expanded between 0.1-0.5 degrees latitude in 40 years so it don’t really think that is going to make much difference on a global scale . Unless it’s harder to shift . I was expecting something more extreme

I keep looking at the charts and it all looks pretty boring doesn’t it ? Gloomy , drizzly , no sun . Oh what fun . I have seen nothing in the model discussion thread to suggest anything of cold interest before the new year. I glance occasionally but you know the score after about two minutes of reading the comments . Be nice to actually get a frost

Been lightly snowing here in Reigate for the last hour . Nice to see so early in season

Exactly what I was thinking

That can’t be correct it shows the Isle of Wight having less wind then inland !!

I don’t think it’s going to deviate much at all from the latest met office forecast to be honest . Check out the video on their website for the latest track of it .

All the talk of 1987. Just thought I’d post a few photos of inland Surrey . Lingfield to be precise where I grew up . Remember the howling winds and total apocalyptic scenes the next day . All roads out were blocked by debris . I innocently cycled down the road to see what the damage was and got tangled up in some downed telephone cables . Thank gos they were not electricity ! Hopefully this storm won’t be anything like it

Doesn’t look like much of note if you believe the met office generated forecast for inland south east areas. Here in Reigate it’s saying maximum gusts 42mph on Thursday, hardly a repeat of the legendary 1987 storm . Accept maybe some coastal areas will see more

Both to be honest no offence caused

Bearing in mind we are currently at +2:85c above February average I find it strange that people on the model thread are expecting some miracle from the SSW. Everytime I look on there there seems to be more and more data posted from different sources (dare I say overkill) yet the same end result is something may happen in 16 days time . And this gets shunted down the line . I think people need to get realistic on this winter . It’s done . People should be looking for spring now . We had a decent cold spell December and that was it . The met office outlook doesn’t even suggest anything other than ‘colder than average ‘ for march . Not bitterly cold . I really don’t get the hyperbole on the model thread . It’s never been the same since the top posters have left or been banned . I just glance at it now as quite frankly a lot of fragile egos on there as soon as you comment something they don’t agree with . I guess that’s social media and keyboard warriors for you

Like the way you’ve tried to be logical about this but I don’t think at this stage you can rule out winds from the east when the SSW has not really happened yet . We have no idea how it’s going to affect things in next 2 weeks

I really enjoyed winter . Now we’ve moved into spring I guess it’s when the first 20c is forecast can’t be long now can it ?

Ski Welt area so quite low altitude. But plenty of time I guess for things to pick up mid January onwards hopefully !

The way the models are looking at present this ski season in Europe is looking awful. I'm off to Andorra in under two weeks and then to Austria late January . I've kind of written off Andorra as going to be thin cover and icy . Regarding Austria I'm beginning to get concerned about here now. That sodding High Pressure system over Southern Europe just won't budge and is just spreading warm air and melt across the Alps with literally no sign of snow to a decent low level forecast. Kind of despair setting in here

Isn’t the high pressure set up exactly what happened last January ? I seem to remember a huge warm high pressure system over southern Europe.