The Gulf Stream hasn't moved south, but it has been greatly weakened over the past several months according to NOAA and US Navy ocean models. http://polar.ncep.no...-rundate=latest Here are two comparisons from August and September last year which show several ocean currents including the Brazil Current, the Caribbean current, the NAD, the Canary current and the Norway current which now either cease to exist or have been greatly weakened http://img201.images...100f024natl.png http://i82.photobuck...urr20090820.png I by no means believe BP could cause this, people tend to put the blame on somebody because it is convenient. Besides the Loop current is one current which still appears to be working when it is clear the damage appears to be done elsewhere some several thousand miles from the Gulf of Mexico. I am actually quite mystified that nobody is factoring this into their winter forecasts since the gulf stream/NAD is the UK's central heating system. I also believe the SST data from the models is wrong, there is no way they could remain at the norm with this apparent disruption to the ocean circulation, and NASA satellite data confirms this below which is very similar to the Data on Netweather Extra. http://ghrsst.jpl.na...ges/amsre-1.jpg As usual with anything weather related the media and the Met Office wont say anything until the effects are imminently felt. I dont see how people can deny these facts, but it does make things difficult when we have people all over the internet bent on blaming BP for something of this scale which makes no sense whatsoever. http://ukclimateproj.../view/2090/517/