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  • Location: Horsham
  • Weather Preferences: Anything non-disruptive, and some variety
  • Location: Horsham
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It is notable how far behind the French beans are on my allotment. Even last year with the poor July they were cropping by now. This year they still haven't climbed much beyond halfway up the A-frame and no sign of production. This looks like the seventh consecutive year of bugger all output for considerable effort.

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  • Location: South Derbyshire
  • Location: South Derbyshire
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Although it’s been dull and wet, it’s forecasted to be very warm for the time of year next week. 22C on Wednesday here which could be one of the warmest November days on record! 
 

Hang on… I forgot it’s July not November. Wrong thread 🙃

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  • Location: Southend
  • Weather Preferences: Clear blue skies!
  • Location: Southend
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Still don't understand that people don't want to see "unseasonal warm" weather in September when September IS & always has been, a Summer month up til the equinox lol. It's like saying you don't want snow in March when pre equinox March is often freezing, being still Winter.

Other than that, yes, the ideal Autumn with misty mornings, mild temps with blue skies backdropping the beautiful Autumn colours would be fantastic. Autumn in this country usually just means factory preset grey sky, mild wind & rain which we get all year but occasionally we get a half decent one. Fingers crossed!

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Posted
  • Location: Summerseat, SE Lancashire (145m ASL)
  • Location: Summerseat, SE Lancashire (145m ASL)
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A good autumn is one that is sunnier than average and delays the onset of SAD:

September - last harrah of summer with some warm, sunny periods:  has been faily common recently

October - very mobile weather, the "equinox storms" (with sun/showers in between) interspersed with "Indian Summer" (warm days, misty, cool nights).

November - always seems grim to me.  Any glimpses of sun a bonus.

In reality SW winds, grey, damp clagfest will probably dominate from end of September onwards (we are still in the end of September phase from last autumn to be fair!!)

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  • Location: Islington, C. London.
  • Location: Islington, C. London.
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An interesting, well pointed out statistic is how remarkably wet recent Octobers have tended to be. Every one from 2019 through 2023 has been wet, and only 2022 failed to reach the extreme category but was still very wet. October 2023 was one of the wettest on record! What makes this interesting is not every autumn overall since then has been entirely wet. The autumns of 2019, 2022 and 2023 were very wet but 2020 and 2021 were actually quite dry outside of October. However when you look further back you can see there were a cluster of very dry Octobers from 2015 through 2018, so one of those cases where it's sort of balanced itself a bit amongst two extremes.

 

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  • Location: West Yorkshire
  • Location: West Yorkshire
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Here's what I'm hoping for in September, October and November (within reasonable limits, so I'll add a few bits of dodgy weather here and there).

September: a benign, significantly drier than average month. Some early heat but not as extreme as last year, absolute max of 28C in the first week. Stays generally dry throughout. CET 16.0C, not too far below last year, mostly due to cool nights later on in the month.

October: the extended summer continues, with a warm and dry first half featuring a notable warm spell, with widespread low 20s and a max of 27C. The inevitable stormy and wet period comes in the third week with some torrential downpours and severe gales, perhaps a named storm or two. The fourth week turns very cool with some early snow on northern hills and a few early frosts elsewhere. CET 11.5C dragged down by the last week especially. Rainfall ends up close to average.

November: a very mild month with near average rainfall. A long-fetch southerly brings a brief warm spell reaching 22C as the absolute max. It then turns very wet and stormy for the remainder of the first half, with another named storm and heavy rain, but tropical origin so very mild despite the heavy rain and strong winds. The final two weeks turn much cooler by night but still relatively mild by day under a UK high, so bone dry but some sub-zero nights. CET 9.0C.

In short I'm wanting to see large diurnal ranges, warm by day with cooler weather reserved for the nights. I'd also like to avoid any really wet weather, but since it is the UK I've dumped a couple of nasty weeks in there to keep it realistic. It would rank as a very mild autumn though, and I think honestly we deserve it with the way summer has gone. A rare mild and (relatively) dry combination, but hopefully not too unrealistic.

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  • Location: Horsham
  • Weather Preferences: Anything non-disruptive, and some variety
  • Location: Horsham
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 LetItSnow! Although December 2015 made up for the dry October with interest:

 

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  • Location: Islington, C. London.
  • Location: Islington, C. London.
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 al78 Evil month. I got really poorly that month which was extra salt in the wound on a personal level. Down here in the south-east it wasn't really that wet funnily enough as the extremely anomalous heights to our south kept us protected, though of course it created a permanent atmospheric river in the north-west.

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  • Location: Newton Le Willows
  • Location: Newton Le Willows
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A week or two of HP influence in early October is perfect weather imo. A mellow sun, calm mild days but cold nights... Hopefully this year...

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  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Continental winters & summers.
  • Location: Cleeve, North Somerset
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An autumn like 2018 or 2016 I would very much like again. I just love sunny Octobers and Novembers where the colours are brought to life! Intersperse that with some active weather too.

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  • Location: Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: BWh
  • Location: Cheshire
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 MoonlightShadow i believe the C3S long range was hinting at something along those lines. Mild and settled high pressure all the way into December. But LRFs have a habit of failing horribly so who knows.

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  • Location: Newton Le Willows
  • Location: Newton Le Willows
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 raz.org.rain some LRFs caught my eyes with big positive pressure anomalies across Autumn. If anything it could allow us to dry out a bit before the inevitable winter deluge....

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  • Location: Kent, unfortunately
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, snowy winters, warm, early spring, cool, gentle summer, stormy autumn
  • Location: Kent, unfortunately
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I'm guessing after a cool summer September will be the hottest and driest on record and something like the seventh-hottest month ever recorded, followed by the first 30°C October heatwave on record, because balls to seasons being coherent anymore. Then the second half of October after the idiotically late summer will be a urine-fest once again, before November is perhaps a bit more seasonable and on the drier side thanks to La Nina frontending starting to kick in. Maybe December will also be a bit more seasonable than in recent times, before spring starts sometime around mid January. Then perhaps we'll have an extraordinarily early summer with the first April 30°C and May being the hottest on record, before autumn arrives in June, because again, the seasons are apparently not working correctly anymore 🤣

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  • Location: Islington, C. London.
  • Location: Islington, C. London.
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Apart from overestimating the unsettled spells, this was bang on! July however a complete bust.

Due to Atlantic SSTs and 2024 being a joker of a year, I'm gonna update the predictions a little.

August 2024: I'm keeping the same theme going but toning down the heat to be a high of only 31C, our lowest annual maximum in over a decade. Also increasing the dullness and wetness slightly but still generally unexceptional.

September 2024: Changing it slightly. Toning down the heat early on for more general sustained warmth. Generally a fine first week to ten days with sparkling sunshine and highs in the mid/upper-twenties to taunt everyone, then turning more unsettled and much cooler but more of the showery nature with some places staying mostly dry. An exceptionally cool end to the month setting up a cold start to October. Generally slightly warmer than average with mixed sunshine and rather dry.

October 2024:. A bizarre month somewhat like October 1888 but wet. An exceptionally cool start, the coldest start to October in many years with an early frost and even some snow in the north causing a shock to both people and nature, then recovering to average temperatures but only due to warm SSTs fuelling a conveyer belt of low pressure systems for two weeks straight with exceptionally heavy rain and strong winds, perhaps a 1987 style wind-storm to compoud the misery. Then in the final week pressure raising to give an exceptionally mild/warm south-westerly flow with temperatures in the low/mid-twenties, smashing date records but fuelling more torrential rain and gales, this time focused on the north-west. Generally average temperatures due to a cold first half but warm end, extremely wet with it rivalling or eclipsing 1903 and generally dull, especially in the south.

November 2024: The blowtorch south-westerlies continue on from the end of the October and continue through much of November with very little in the way of sunshine or frost. Very wet, windy and extremely dull. 

December 2024: Staying very mild, wet and windy for the first week but eventually high pressure building in and dominating the rest of the month. A mild, foggy high for mid-December with lots of anticyclonic gloom but turning colder with frosts and sunshine in the run up to Christmas, then transitioning into a blocked set up with very cold condtions in time for Christmas and persisting into new year as 2025 starts its mission bring back seasonal weather once and for all... Generally slightly milder than average, notably dull but very dry despite a very wet first week, the driest December since 2016.

ANNUAL: 4.7 - 7.8 - 8.1 - 9.6 - 14.1 - 14.0 - 15.2 - 15.8 - 14.2 - 10.4 - 10.2 - 5.1: 10.8

97.2mm - 151.8mm - 111.7mm - 95.4mm - 61.6mm - 33.8mm - 98.3mm - 98.2mm - 57.9mm - 226.4mm - 152.6mm - 56.7mm: 1,241.6mm

This was my joke prediction for autumn 2024 but with this year's sadistic grin you can actually see something like it happen.

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  • Location: Saddleworth, historically West Yorks, 225m asl
  • Weather Preferences: All 4 seasons and a good mixture of everything and anything!
  • Location: Saddleworth, historically West Yorks, 225m asl
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Autumn feels a long way off yet. We tend to get some warm pleasant weather in September as summer holds on tight so for me, seasonal Autumnal weather often doesn't kick in until October. 

 

It's often a bit of a tricky season.

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  • Location: Islington, C. London.
  • Location: Islington, C. London.
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Looking at old pictures of various parts of London in Octobers past and you can see the effect warm and cool/average Octobers have from eachother on the foliage.

image.thumb.png.05447c402af85dec2175f2afc08033fe.png This picture taken in October 2005 shows minor falling and lots of green still about, very bland.

 image.thumb.png.6f7d387907365e7dbadd08999fe49727.png Pictures from October 2006 even less so. Very bland.

image.thumb.png.e630c6d02b8ac8ce83b736ffed798c6f.png October 2007 however, a month with more autumnal conditions and the colours come right out.

image.thumb.png.74e4d36c40fd8a6651e1ca884b72534e.png October 2008 too. Though this day wasn't a sparkling example of the month, clearly!

In my personal opinion a warm autumn is fatal to really enjoying the essence of the season. You need a bit of everything.

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  • Location: Ashbourne,County Meath,about 6 miles northwest of dublin airport. 74m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Cold weather - frost or snow
  • Location: Ashbourne,County Meath,about 6 miles northwest of dublin airport. 74m ASL
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 LetItSnow! Took these pictures in a forest in the middle of October last yr.  Crazy the amount of green for the time of Yr.

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  • Location: Islington, C. London.
  • Location: Islington, C. London.
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 sundog Last year was actually scary how slow the strange happened, and then the gradual cooldown but lack of chilly nights lead to such a dreary mess.

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  • Location: Twickenham, London
  • Weather Preferences: Csa/Csb
  • Location: Twickenham, London
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 LetItSnow! Depends when in October the pictures were taken. In early October it's normal for everything to be green still. In late October the leaves start turning and falling. I'd say early November is when the autumn colours are at their peak here.

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  • Location: Islington, C. London.
  • Location: Islington, C. London.
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 B87 These pictures were all taken around the mid October period. You’re right but the effects of the weather are undeniable and observable. Warm, wet autumns just screw up the seasonable feel. Easily the worst type of autumns you can get. Ideally you want a bit of everything: some warmth with cool nights but not an early frost too soon or else it can kill the leaves before they go super gold and red. You also ideally don’t want many windstorms for obvious reasons. Also dry ground helps the leaves go browner.  

Autumn 2016 was perfect for this, starting very warm, slowly cooling down in October and eventually becoming cold in November, all while being very dry and having only one day of windy weather all season, the 21st of November. 

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  • Location: Twickenham, London
  • Weather Preferences: Csa/Csb
  • Location: Twickenham, London
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 LetItSnow! Mid July onwards in 2016 was nice as it was generally sunny and dry (apart from September which was dull). Hopefully we get a very dry and sunny 2nd half of the year.

Heathrow's average first frost is around 22nd November, and October/November are the 2 wettest months of the year on average. The climate is not a good one for lots of autumn colour.

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  • Location: Islington, C. London.
  • Location: Islington, C. London.
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 B87 Oh you’re totally right. Autumns like 2016 are rare and most aren’t anything special in the christmas pudding. In older times though when colder spells were more frequent I imagine that they were prettier. I’m gonna post more pictures from autumns past. 

Last year was strange in the sense that the first 12 days were exceptionally warm but then I think we got close to a frost, may have been one I’m not sure, on the 13th. Very abrupt shift to summer then winter in a day. 

 

Why on earth does this bloody website translate “c u r r 3 n t 3 r a” to Christmas bloody pudding 🤣

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  • Location: Southampton, UK
  • Location: Southampton, UK
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If we're going for the perfect Autumn, then for me: 

September - Dull. September always seems to me to be the dullest month. Maybe it's the hangover from school days - both as student and teacher - but September just = grey to me. As such, I'd like to buck my own expectations and see the first two weeks of September be sunny and bright, but with temps just not able to get up high due to some North/North West winds. It's still hitting the low 20s at time, but certainly by the end of the second week, you'll need a jacket for the evenings at least. After the 15th, the temperature falls away and we wont be seeing anything over 18 for the rest of the year. Still bright days, but that wind chill wont let the temps get higher and the jacket is needed for the days by the end of the month.

October - First week remaining sunny and bright, but the dark nights start to draw in so the sun feels weaker and less able to assert any real warmth. Winds start picking up by mid-month and we get some windy and stormy weather in the third week, before things settle down to a foggy affair. Halloween is chilly, breath in the air stuff but dry and pleasant enough to be out in for the usual fun associated with that day. The leaves are turning, but not yet falling. Orange and Yellow everywhere. 

November - Staying dry again, but the cold starts really creeping in now. Lots of morning frosts, but still bright when the sun is able to shine. Leaves are falling and crunchy due to the frosts, and much like Halloween, Bonfire Night is chilly, but dry and a good excuse to go outside and enjoy yourself. Take in a local fireworks show with a coat and some warm drinks. The month turns wet in the middle, but ends how it starts, with crisp and cold air in charge, and the sun still keeping the days bright, and the moon bright at night. 

A picture book Autumn. No extreme residual warmth, no Indian Summers, no extreme anything really. Brighter, but colder. Usable, but colder. 

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  • Location: Mynydd - Isa , Nr Mold - North Wales
  • Weather Preferences: Foggy autumn days are the best! Although I does enjoy a good thunderstorm.
  • Location: Mynydd - Isa , Nr Mold - North Wales
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Morning everyone. 😊

On the way into work this morning, there were beautiful pockets of mist just forming in the bottom of the valleys. 😍🌫️

A sure sign of the changing of the seasons is once more underway. 🌫️😍👌🏻

The season of mists and mellow fruitfulness is almost upon us! 🥳🌫️🌾🍃🍂🍁🍄🎃
 

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