Winter 24-25 Moans, chat and ramp thread

[Summer8906]

 Catbrainz Indeed... just look at that low trapped right over the UK. No wonder the start of 2024 was so rubbish.

[Summer8906]

 SunnyG Mind you it looks like the low will be to the east of us by Saturday afternoon so perhaps not so wet from Sat lunchtime onwards, albeit very windy and cold.

[Catbrainz]

 Summer8906 NAO- can also be poor for France and Iberia too you tend to end up with a low stuck over western Europe somewhere under those set ups or even a nasty Biscay low that would be depressing for all of western Europe. Forgive me for asking if its too much but what's the worse 5 months you can ever recall going through in terms of weather I would like to show you the set ups for said months. Can be any time of the year. 

 

[Summer8906]

 Catbrainz I'd say 20 Sep 2019 to around 10 March 2020, so almost 6 months. I absolutely hated that period weather-wise, and it wasn't great for other reasons too. (And then, when the weather finally improved, there was Covid).

Edited December 5, 2024 by Summer8906

[Summer8906]

1 hour ago, In Absence of True Seasons said:

But heyho, I got Ed Sheeran, Adele, and Justin Beiber I guess

Very OT.. but one thing I've perceived, perhaps wrongly, is that you don't get rock bands any more, at least not on mainstream radio or in the charts. The last wave of rock bands seemed to appear up to around 2010, struggling to think of any who have broken through big-time since then. I realise I am getting old (without giving too much away, I was born in the Wilson-Heath years) but I am aware of the bigger names in contemporary pop music, just not rock.

Edited December 5, 2024 by Summer8906

[Catbrainz]

 Summer8906 Ahh should have clarified individual months like (Feb 2019, April 1977 e.t.c) My bad. Ill make a chart for that time for morbid curiosity's sake. Turbo NAO+ with a very southerly tracking jet. I know I said NAO+ tends to be better overall but not for winter the very worse months in winter tends to be from a NAO+ on steroids like below. You seem to have a better memory than me I tend to recall seasons more than months but ill name the worse seasons for me. 

Spring= 2024
Summer= 2012
Autumn= 2019 (2000 sounded worse but I was a young child at the time so don't really recall it) 
Winter= 2013/2014 or 2006/2007 (I think 2006/2007 was a mild washout could be recalling wrong might have been 07/08)

[Summer8906]

 Catbrainz Ah ok. Thanks for those months anyway, yes southerly tracking NAO+ with mean wind direction south of west, that's one of my least-favourites.

In terms of most disliked months for weather and trying to be dispassionate (including months I liked for personal reasons but didn't like the weather) and making them all some time ago: from a quick think, I'll say May 1983, July 1988, June 1991, November 1997, June 1998 and November 2000.  These aren't necessarily my most hated but were obtained by starting in the early 80s and scanning forward - I might have missed others which could have been worse!

Edited December 5, 2024 by Summer8906

[Catbrainz]

 Summer8906

May 1983= West based NAO- strikes back! (Lame Empire strikes back pun I know) 


July 1988= Looks neutral NAO wise (Hereby refered to as NAO=) but God said let there be a big fat low over the British isles. (Im guessing a cut off low got stuck over the British Isles jet looks very sluggish here so nothing to really move the low) 

June 1991= Looks NAO= but with a nasty fat low over northern Europe 

November 1997= Very weak east based NAO- but you've got that Biscay low. No wonder it was appalling Biscay lows are demonic outside of summer and in small doses where they can provide thundery interest 

June 1998= Central based NAO- id say for this but the lows decided to torment UK/Ireland here. 

[stainesbloke]

No complaints about the weather here in Czechia today, sunny all day with light winds and chilly Really helps the SAD

[Kentspur]

 Froze were the Days We had very little snowfall here parts of Medway for instance to my east often had some decent falls from NElies in the 1990s and early to mid 00s which seem to have gone absent in recent years!

 

But 95 96 was mainly cold and dry here from what I remember, although I believe March 06 I saw some snow at my mums in Medway but barely any snowfalls more than a inch or 2 further west in Kent.

 

It really was a long slog back in 1991 I was 4 it was my first memory of snow- I opened the back door and the snow came up to my neck lol,

 

Then we had no more than a couple inches of snow until January 03 it was a very localised fall I believe bit of a Thames streamer for NW Kent and parts of S Essex

Edited December 6, 2024 by Kentspur

[Kentspur]

 Froze were the Days Also I see you're in Essex which also did far better than my area in the 2017/18 beast from the east as the wind was more ESEly a lot of the time I could literally see the streamers across the Thames narrowly missing us, we had more snow in Jan 2003 than during that event! It was more special for the depth of cold -3c day temps for instance. Ironically it was the newly talked about Icon model that first identified the beast!

[damianslaw]

 johncam Seasonal all the same, far better than thr usual wind and rain we endure, many a December fails to deliver more than the odd day or two of fine settled weather, I'm looking forward to a run of fine chilly dry days once Storm Darragh clears off. 

[I remember Atlantic 252]

so another 2 wet Sundays coming up, 8th and 15th, so difficult to get a dry one

[SunnyG]

 Summer8906 Cold is normal since it's the dregs of the year, aka December

 

[SunnyG]

Very glad to be away from the worst of the storm. Be safe, people in the west.

[Summer8906]

 SunnyG Was assuming the east would get it worse (especially North Sea coasts) being closer to the centre of the low as that strong northerly kicks in - but looks not.

Edited December 6, 2024 by Summer8906

[johncam]

 damianslaw yep let's hope Damien , though later  on in ECM turns a lot more changeable.  

[RJBingham]

Picked a great weekend to go to Wales 

[knocker]

After temps hovering around average or a tad below signs of them trending a little above average in the zonal flow last week of Dec and the first half of Jan. according to the ec46 update

500 hPa height and 2m weekly mean anomalies 30 - 06

Oh my, the Daffs could be out early this year

[SunnyG]

 knocker We like to see that. At least,  I do

 

[SunSean]

 knocker So basically mild, cloudy & wet incoming. Yay...

[ANYWEATHER]

Looks like proper Winter will start at some point  too. Get the wind and rain out if the way ,and then buckle down for a winter roller coaster ride. Mid - January, looks very interesting for winter fans......

[swfc-ocs]

 ANYWEATHER mid january? Can i ask what thats based on .tia

[Methuselah]

 swfc

I was about to ask the very same thing. 

[stainesbloke]

Absolute shocker of a day here in Czechia. Freezing rain first thing, then heavy sleet, turned to wet snow, then back to heavy rain. Still raining now. The temperature has risen gradually through the day to 7°C now, but feels very cold out