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  • Location: Crymych, Pembrokeshire. 150m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Extremes of all kinds...
  • Location: Crymych, Pembrokeshire. 150m asl
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 IanT   Yeah.  That ‘breeze’.  The one which was knocking artics off the motorway.  The one which was tearing the roofs off leisure centres.  The one which brought down the gable wall of a block of flats.  But, yeah, let’s all go out and do our errands as if it was just another day.  Love to know where that troll lives.   Idiot.

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  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow in winter, good sun at other times with appropriate rain.
  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
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 Sky Full

“I think back 40 years to when my mother and gran were alive. I know exactly what would have happened - they'd have each put an extra load of washing on and got it straight out on the line to take full advantage of wind drying pairs of jeans and thick jumpers in 30 minutes. Then they would have donned a head scarf to keep their hair in check, put on a sturdy pair of shoes and gone out in the wind and done their errands as per usual.”   
 

hmmmn says it all really.  I guess troll lives  in headroom .  Back in the days, when presumably active young troll  was watching said mother and gran, headscarved up, battling with winds to put  sodding  washing out, troll was doing it from safety of its fetid bedroom…..

Although having said that, perhaps it was troll tongue in troll cheek. I’m sure headscarves weren’t worn that decade, not even by sturdily shoe’d grandmothers.

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  • Location: Near Beverley, East Yorks. (5 metres a.s.l.)
  • Weather Preferences: Something good in all four seasons
  • Location: Near Beverley, East Yorks. (5 metres a.s.l.)
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Yes, Jeremy Clarkson had his usual, highly educated say on the 'Hysterical Storm Warnings' in
The Sun newspaper.

 

"ALL last week, we were warned that we’d need to tie our dogs down because they were going to be sucked into the sky by the airborne twister- tsunami known as Storm Eeowowyion.

This mega storm was going to unleash hell. Buildings would be smashed, trains would be blown over. Forests would be flattened.


Dramatic weather warnings led to widespread precautions and shutdowns - only for the day to turn out a bit breezy for many areas (if not all)
The weathermen were very clear about all of this. They even produced maps showing the low-pressure system and, to hammer the point home, they didn’t use reds and yellows. They broke out the scarlets and a purple so deep it was almost black.

And as a result, businesses arranged to shut for the day, travel plans were changed and everyone made sure their garden trampolines were chained to newly sunk concrete foundations.

And then we woke up yesterday ­morning to find it was a bit breezy.

The weathermen were all standing on the bottom corner of Ireland, making out like they were in Hiroshima in 1945 and there were stories that commercial ­airliners were coming across the Atlantic at speeds in excess of 800 mph.

But for most of us, there was no real weather at all.

I also lived through the Storm of ’87 and I’ve been to southern Chile where it rains, heavily, all day and every day for six months.

Look, I know why the weather- men like to get hysterical. It means they are elevated from a slot at the end of a news bulletin into the bulletin itself and this makes their mums and dads very proud.

And I know why BBC television producers like the histrionics as well.

 It plays into the anti-Tory, anti-growth, anti-business global-warming narrative.

When warned of a 'danger to life', it feels as unclear as a 'falling rocks' road signCredit: Getty
But for everyone else, it’s just a bloody nuisance.

When you tell us there is a “danger to life”, what are we supposed to do exactly? It’s like those road signs you see sometimes that say “falling rocks”.


 Yes? And? Do you want me to turn round and go home? Or drive more quickly? Or fit the car with a titanium umbrella before proceeding?

Humans are surprisingly adaptable. I’ve worked in the Sahara Desert when the daytime temperature never dropped below 50C and I’ve operated in the exact ­opposite of that at the North Pole.

I also lived through the Storm of ’87 and I’ve been to southern Chile where it rains, heavily, all day and every day for six months.

And it’s always fine. We cope.

I will admit, of course, that the weather is changing. In Britain, it’s getting warmer and wetter, and we get more wind than we’d like.

 But we can, and do, manage.

So, please, in future calmly tell us what the weather will do tomorrow so we’ll know in the morning if we should put on a jumper. And then leave it at that.

Oh, and can we stop giving storms names no one can pronounce."

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  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow in winter, good sun at other times with appropriate rain.
  • Location: Glyn Ceiriog. 197m ASL
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 Beverley Lass well, he has to earn his pennies -a  man can’t live  on diddly squat….

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  • Location: Motherwell
  • Weather Preferences: windy
  • Location: Motherwell
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Is there any data from Bishopton for 2pm on Friday? The last reading was at 1pm and the oldest available on the MO was at 3pm.

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  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
  • Weather Preferences: Warm & sunny
  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
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@swebby

 

Ive been chatting with swebby about the possibility some of my weather satellite images may have picked up evidence of a sting jet event

 

So the first one for examination is a crop of an image from meteor M2-3 taken from the 1125 southbound pass. That "tongue" over central Scotland is not there on other passes. Image is msu-mr-rgb-mcir  enhancement. Its visible but not so obvious on the avhrr-221-false colour enhancement

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This yellow tinged image is the same pass but a crop of the the msu-mr-124-false colour image

 

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A little earlier in the day at 1030 this is a NOAA  19 pass with the avhrr-3-rgb-cloud top-ir enhancement (Ignore the mapping errors up north of Scotland - thats a bug in the decoder software, but Ive overlaid the map to show where the storm was in relation to Ireland & the uk, because its difficult to see otherwise).

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  • Location: East County Clare
  • Location: East County Clare
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Finally got power back here this afternoon. 60 hours without power which in this house means no heating no cooking and no water. Patchy at best mobile signal till this morning. We count ourselves lucky some in the local area have been given an estimated date for reconnection of 4th February. 

We've worked out what else to do to make us more resilient in the future because as this weekend has seen we can't rely on the government to look after us. All credit to ESB crews who have been out all hours and all weathers to get supplies reinstated.

Apart from the scary gusts at the height of the storm my memories will consist of getting the bbq out in the snow to boil some water. I don't think I've ever been so upset to see snow as I was that morning. Temperature in the house dipped to 12.5° but have got the heating on full blast slowly warming the house up.

Ireland has very limited reporting weather stations so we'll never truly know how bad it was but 765,000 properties without power is unprecedented in Ireland.

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  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
  • Weather Preferences: Warm & sunny
  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
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@swebby

crop of Meteor M2-3 pass at 0945 southbound direction

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Because of the timings & locations of the passes it looks like this is the last interesting image

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  • Location: Woking
  • Weather Preferences: Anything unusual works for me...!
  • Location: Woking
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 Sky Full Weill I thought it was nothing more than a quite well observed and entertaining rhetorical rant..! 

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  • Location: Crymych, Pembrokeshire. 150m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Extremes of all kinds...
  • Location: Crymych, Pembrokeshire. 150m asl
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To all those who laugh at the MetO for their warnings and storm names, and those who don’t wish to be told that the weather is likely to be dangerous,  I can only point out that there was only one death attributed to this record breaking storm.  Sad though it is that anyone has died as a result of the weather, one death amid all the fallen trees, overturned lorries, roofs destroyed and falling bricks is a very low toll for such a violent event.  Can we thank the warnings for this?  No one can really say for sure, but if there is any chance that a single life was saved then surely it’s better to keep this system going and put up with it without complaint even if you are not directly affected where you live?

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  • Location: Cheshire
  • Location: Cheshire
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 Sky Full well said and thank you for saying it. If we think back, Jan/Feb 1953 - 307 dead in the UK, Jan 1968 (Glasgow) - 20 dead, Oct 1987 - 18 dead (night storm), Jan 1990 - 47 dead (all figures, Eden), and Storm Eowyn - 2 dead, therein lies the justification for the current warnings, despite what Jeremy Whats-his-name and parts of the national press might think and say. 

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  • Location: Benson, Oxfordshire
  • Location: Benson, Oxfordshire
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 Beverley Lass He's a tool. He lives about 30 miles from me, and we did get off relatively unscathed in that the worst of the winds were overnight for us and nowhere near as savage as they were for others who experienced genuine terror watching the wind destroy outbuildings and fell trees. But there was absolutely no need for me to come online and tell the world this - especially as it didn't take long to find stories and pictures showing the devastation to parts of Ireland and theUK. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen,Jezza!

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  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
  • Weather Preferences: Warm & sunny
  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
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Edinburgh Botanic Gardens have been devastated by Eowyn

 

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

The 166-year-old Himalayan cedar grew to 100ft tall after being planted in Edinburgh during a visit by Queen Victoria's son, Albert.

 

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  • Location: Exeter, Devon, UK. alt 10m asl
  • Location: Exeter, Devon, UK. alt 10m asl
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 Dark Star Hi Darkstar, many thanks for these.

To my very amateur eye, there are features in that last image that correspond top the "chevron" cloud features that Browning & Field discuss in their 2004 paper where they review the satellite imagery of the great storm of October 1987.  Paper is attached and they refer to them as forming as result of convergence in the boundary layer and indicate the presence of multiple sting jets moving downwards and ahead of the main wrap around cloud head and so indicate where the most damaging surface winds are.

I've annotated the last image and have cropped a zoomed in version, plus a version that i've not scrawled all over so the cloud bands can be seen.

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Link to the paper

https://centaur.reading.ac.uk/35115/1/200411401_ftp.pdf

 

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  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
  • Weather Preferences: Warm & sunny
  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
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@swebby

Another NOAA19 pic from that pass - this time Ive left it as the full sized image so the cropping doesnt affect the clarity & you can play with the resizing as you need

 

This is the avhrr-3-rgb-NO-enhancement image

 

 

 

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  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
  • Weather Preferences: Warm & sunny
  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
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The 400 year old  Darnley Sycamore  in Glasgow has been severely damaged by the storm but its hoped it will survive

 

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

Historians are optimistic the ancient Darnley Sycamore, which has links to Mary Queen of Scots, can be saved.

 

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  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
  • Weather Preferences: Warm & sunny
  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
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@swebby

 

Do we have any idea as to when the strongest gusts were recorded over Northern Ireland? NOAA19 would have been starting its pass over NI  at 1040 according to the orbital tracking software I use.

 

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  • Location: Buckinghamshire
  • Location: Buckinghamshire
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 Dark Star

The wind graphs I posted on Saturday morning should be of some use 🙂

A few places for example..

Thomastown: 9am 84mph

Ballypatrickforest: 11am 82.9mph

Magilligan: 12pm 88.6mph

Aldergrove: 11am 76mph

Portglenone: 6/7 and 9am 65.6mph

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  • Location: Co Clare, Ireland
  • Location: Co Clare, Ireland
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 Sussex Jules I'm in East Clare too (near Tulla). Just got power back after almost 5 full days

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  • Location: East County Clare
  • Location: East County Clare
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 len wow small world! I'm between Feakle and Scariff. Glad you got power back. Was a rough few days and I'll be happier once everyone is sorted.

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  • Location: Buckinghamshire
  • Location: Buckinghamshire
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@Sky Full

I emailed the Met office about the wind gust at Thomastown just to make sure it was an error and they confirmed to me earlier the maximum wind gust reached 85mph and not 108mph as expected. 🙂

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  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
  • Weather Preferences: Warm & sunny
  • Location: Kelso Scottish Borders
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Some news & pictures from the forests of southern Scotland

 

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

People have been asked to stay away from Newcastleton and Dalbeattie forests following Storm Éowyn last week.

 

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  • Location: East Lothian
  • Weather Preferences: Not too hot, excitement of snow, a hoolie
  • Location: East Lothian
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WWW.NETWEATHER.TV

It's already been a week since Storm Eowyn and how the weather has changed. High pressure instead of the deep low but many in Northern Ireland...

 

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