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  • Location: Warminster, Wiltshire
  • Location: Warminster, Wiltshire

This happens on the local forecast TWS :o . Showers are shown to form and move around different parts of the region and are mixed with the clearer skies.

A few times recently our local Points West forecast has included excellent descriptions of convergence zones, leading to showers forming from the Bristol Channel and visibly moving into Gloucestershire!

But it's obviously easier to portray on a smaller area chart!

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  • Location: Reigate, Surrey 78m asl
  • Location: Reigate, Surrey 78m asl

Well the local forecasts in the south-east are largely useless tbh... but they were before the system change...

I like your idea about the showers though TWS

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I think that the use of blobs to reflect showers at the moment is better than before the change. Certainly IMO gives a better idea of the location of the showers.

However, They have now changed the BBC Internet site to only give cloud and rain forecasts to every 3 hours. WHY ?

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  • Location: South Pole
  • Location: South Pole

LOL - I see the BBC message board is still frequented by foaming-at-the-mouth-types who spam the Forecast cafe with their complaints. They must think the old graphics are coming back.

I for one think the new graphic are a great improvement on the old ones. Just a shame Darren 'Ditchwater' Bett seems to be on so frequently recently.

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  • Location: South Pole
  • Location: South Pole
Well the local forecasts in the south-east are largely useless tbh... but they were before the system change...

I like your idea about the showers though TWS

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The south-east forecast is crap, isn't it. Why do they always have Peter Cockroft up on the rooftop? What's the obsession with putting Willetts, Kirkwood, Lear, Cockroft, etc. on the roof of the studio. It's just to make the broadcast look good "Oh look at us we're high up here with a great view over London".

And isn't it really annoying the way Cockroft always says "Thank you very much" when the news presenter hands over to him at the end of the 10.30pm regional news? Peter's weather insert has blatantly been recorded. Have a look - it'll be on in 10 minutes.

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  • Location: Abingdon - 55m ASL - Capital of The Central Southern England Corridor of Winter Convectionlessness
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Snow>Freezing Fog; Summer: Sun>Daytime Storms
  • Location: Abingdon - 55m ASL - Capital of The Central Southern England Corridor of Winter Convectionlessness

BRING BACK THE MAGNETIC SYMBOLS!!!

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  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine, convective precipitation, snow, thunderstorms, "episodic" months.
  • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire

I saved all of the magnetic symbols to my hard disk about a year ago (unaware that they were soon to depart)- so I can still present 'pretend' forecasts using the old graphics system! A good way to eliminate any withdrawal symptoms.

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  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore
The south-east forecast is crap, isn't it. Why do they always have Peter Cockroft up on the rooftop? What's the obsession with putting Willetts, Kirkwood, Lear, Cockroft, etc. on the roof of the studio. It's just to make the broadcast look good "Oh look at us we're high up here with a great view over London".

And isn't it really annoying the way Cockroft always says "Thank you very much" when the news presenter hands over to him at the end of the 10.30pm regional news? Peter's weather insert has blatantly been recorded. Have a look - it'll be on in 10 minutes.

Pete Cockroft doesn't actually work for the BBC anymore - I'm lead to believe that BBC southeast sold the contract for the local weather to his company...

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  • Location: Barnehurst nr Bexleyheath, Kent
  • Location: Barnehurst nr Bexleyheath, Kent
Pete Cockroft doesn't actually work for the BBC anymore - I'm lead to believe that BBC southeast sold the contract for the local weather to his company...

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Peter Cockroft presents the weather on the London local weather (part of the local BBC news) - cant comment weather he is part of the BBC still - although I am lead to believe that when he does the forcast - as he uses the BBC graphics etc

Edit - and I happen to like Peter Cockcroft presenting the weather!

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  • Location: Sydney, Australia
  • Weather Preferences: Snow!
  • Location: Sydney, Australia
Well the local forecasts in the south-east are largely useless tbh... but they were before the system change...

I like your idea about the showers though TWS

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the one in East Anglia is good

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  • Location: Swansea (West)
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms, Hot Summer days
  • Location: Swansea (West)
They do that with the BBC Wales forecast too at 10.30pm, obviously pre-recorded.

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Think its the same forecast used on BBC2W at 10pm

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  • Location: Reigate, Surrey 78m asl
  • Location: Reigate, Surrey 78m asl
The south-east forecast is crap, isn't it. Why do they always have Peter Cockroft up on the rooftop? What's the obsession with putting Willetts, Kirkwood, Lear, Cockroft, etc. on the roof of the studio. It's just to make the broadcast look good "Oh look at us we're high up here with a great view over London".

And isn't it really annoying the way Cockroft always says "Thank you very much" when the news presenter hands over to him at the end of the 10.30pm regional news? Peter's weather insert has blatantly been recorded. Have a look - it'll be on in 10 minutes.

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I know, that is eally bad - it is very obvious!

Pete Cockroft doesn't actually work for the BBC anymore - I'm lead to believe that BBC southeast sold the contract for the local weather to his company...

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Good grief - why would they do that?

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL

That's a wee bit unlucky!

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  • Location: Larbert
  • Location: Larbert

Someone's probably said this already, but in my eagerness to vent bile, I didn't read all the posts.

Why do we have to have this, ultra-quick, super-easy, weather summary for retards? Since when has weather been classified into two types: 'rain', and 'not rain'? That's all the information they give you. What happened to fronts, isobars, proper wind arrows, and those precious notifications that it is 'windy' in the sea. If some people don't understand the whole forecast, who cares?! By all means change how it looks if you really want to, but don't remove most of the information. I also like to know what kind of cloud is overhead; is it black fluffy cloud or grey fluffy cloud tomorrow? Instead you get this patchy thing that looks like the UK has rejoiced in incontinence and been covered in damp patches.

Keep the new look, but give me the whole weather. :(

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  • Location: Caterham-on-the-hill, Surrey, 190m asl (home), Heathrow (work)
  • Location: Caterham-on-the-hill, Surrey, 190m asl (home), Heathrow (work)

Don't know if anyone else has noticed, but there seems to be quite often contradictory forecasts between the local and national BBC forecasts. Last night I watched the Look East forecast and it suggested dry overnight with rain arriving late morning here (wrong, as it started raining in the early hours), while the national forecast a few mins later at 10.35pm was spot on by suggesting rain moving in overnight and probably clearing North by afternoon time. I think the local BBC forecasts should be in line with the national forecasts allbeit in more local detail. Has anyone else noticed this with local forecasts?

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  • Location: Warminster, Wiltshire
  • Location: Warminster, Wiltshire

Kind of Nick :( .

It will be interesting later when the next pulse of rain comes in. The national shows Wiltshire largely escaping with the rain moving across Devon/Somerset and then into the Bristol/S.Wales regions.

But the local close up rain prediction covers Wiltshire/Bath in a yellow blob suggesting very heavy rain.

Being in W.Wiltshire I expect heavy rain later on while further E (probably with Salisbury Plain being the dividing line) escapes the worst??

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL

I am increasingly annoyed by the inconsistency of the national forecasts.

Many 'presenters' now show the additional place names and the wind speed arrows. But others don't. So some days the full pisture is presented, but others is back to the simplistic - will it be sunny, cloudy or raining limit of information. Surely all presenters should be told to show a minimum of information - and build fromt here that includes the wind and smaller towns?

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  • Location: South Pole
  • Location: South Pole
Since when has weather been classified into two types: 'rain', and 'not rain'? That's all the information they give you.

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Tbh, that's all most people want to know. "Do I need an umbrella when I go out today or not?"

Being brutally honest, most people couldn't give a bugger about wind roses, isobars and the rest of it. And the BBC know it, too.

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL

But by accepting that attitude you are generalising and simplifying. For instance - why do I have to listen to 'Market Reports' on the news about share prices etc. Most people don't care about them.

Or what about niche news items in general; about a solar plant in Tazmania, or a riot in Brazil?

Of course 'most people' aren't interested in pressure charts and isobars - but the BBC is a public service provider and it is its job to cater for specialist or minority audiences.

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IMO the national and regional forecast are now more consistent than before the change. (Not saying if this is good or not.)

I think the problem for the 2230 local/ 2235 national forecast is that the local one at that time is pre recorded and any change in the weather during that time is not picked up.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Still got a problem with the breakfast forecast. Today it was earlier at 6.44 however no detail given whatsoever. Just a brief verbal summery from Carol and that was it. Around ten seconds - 20 seconds worth.

Disgraceful.

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  • Location: South Pole
  • Location: South Pole
Still got a problem with the breakfast forecast. Today it was earlier at 6.44 however no detail given whatsoever. Just a brief verbal summery from Carol and that was it. Around ten seconds - 20 seconds worth.

Disgraceful.

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Given the importance of news like IRA, London bombings etc. I can't say I have a problem with weather being one minute earlier. It's difficult to run a schedule precisely.

And to be fair, although I know people do have to get to work, you do have 6 opportunities to catch it on breakfast. And you can always listen to the 6.57 Today forecast, or the 6.29 or 6.59 Breakfast forecast on 5 Live.

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  • Location: Great Yeldham, North Essex
  • Location: Great Yeldham, North Essex

Its dreaduful, whatever anyone says, its awaful. The predicted showers showed colchester up the road having rain all day, whilst there was meant to be none here. There are usually no isobars or weather fronts either, its naff.

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