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Another blooming climate survey

parmenides3

By parmenides3
in Space, Science & nature

What is your opinion on climate change?  

82 members have voted

  1. 1. Where do you stand on climate change?

    • There is no warming; its a fabrication based on inaccurate measurement. It is arrogant to presume that we can have any effect on Nature.
      1
    • The recent warming is entirely natural. CO2 has nothing to do with it. It could well be the Sun.
      7
    • There may be some changes in the atmosphere, but the changes are all within natural limits. The 'scares' are exaggerations with a political motive.
      11
    • It's so confusing I can't make my mind up; it is getting warmer but I don't know why. All of the arguments sound convincing & I can't decide who to trust.
      6
    • There is warming and CO2 may cause some of it, but the science is too uncertain to be sure. The IPCC probably underestimates some of the natural forcings and overestimates the role of CO2.
      28
    • The mainstream scientific view, as per the IPCC, has got it more or less right. I accept that the scientists probably know what they are doing and we are warming the planet
      8
    • The IPCC is compromised by political intervention; I agree with the scientists who say that it is underestimating the problem and something needs to be done about it soon.
      4
    • Too much of the science is conservative in its findings; I think it's probably worse than they are saying.
      0
    • If we don't do something about emissions in the next few years, we are in real trouble. Action is needed now to mitigate the threat of serious warming and other impacts.
      9
    • We are on the edge of a disaster, which we may not be able to prevent. We are messing up the earth's natural systems and will pay the price in some ways even if we act now.
      8

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parmenides3

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  • Location: Sunny Southsea
    • Location: Sunny Southsea
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    Foolish as it may seem, this is a serious attempt to do an opinion poll here on NW.

    I know a lot of the ground has been covered before, but this is part of some research I am doing on public perceptions of climate change, and as such, I would be very, very grateful if some of you would take the time to answer this, as honestly as possible.

    As usual, there are a range of choices. If your opinion is not represented, or appears to fall between two options, I apologise, but please try to give the nearest answer to your general 'feeling' if this is the case.

    I would ask that you read all of the options carefully before voting, as some of the differences are quite subtle.

    Thanks to anyone and everyone who makes the effort to help me with this.

    :)P

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    Bobby Seasoned

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    The mainstream scientific view, as per the IPCC, has got it more or less right. I accept that the scientists probably know what they are doing and we are warming the planet

    The IPCC is compromised by political intervention; I agree with the scientists who say that it is underestimating the problem and something needs to be done about it soon

    Too much of the science is conservative in its findings; I think it's probably worse than they are saying.

    My views are somewhere between those 3. While I am convinced that the Earth is warming and it's humans that are largely responsible for the warming, I'm not convinced that the effects of warming will be as bad as some people are predicting. Some people are even suggesting the extinction of mankind! There's a lot of overreaction and scaremongering. My feeling is that while there will be negative effects from global warming, there will be many positives too. It'll all largely balance out in the end. Humans will adapt, take advantage of the new opportunities and everything will be largely OK. There will be some trouble along the way, but no armageddon.

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    shuggee Maestro

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
    • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
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    Good poll Fergus ;)

    5th down for me.

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    parmenides3

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  • Location: Sunny Southsea
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    Ta, Shuggs. I've pasted a link to this page on my blog http://fergusbrown.wordpress.com/ . It would be interesting to know if anyone comes to NW from there, though my hit count is several million behind NW's. If anyone wants to comment on the blog, please feel free, but do tell me if you have already voted on this page.

    :)P

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    The Penguin Apprentice

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  • Location: South of Glasgow 55.778, -4.086, 86m
    • Location: South of Glasgow 55.778, -4.086, 86m
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    I've voted on this page, but my choice is a secret because I don't want to be too closely associated with Mr. Shugs.

    Doh.

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    • Location: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
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    There is warming and CO2 may cause some of it, but the science is too uncertain to be sure. The IPCC probably underestimates some of the natural forcings and overestimates the role of CO2.

    The mainstream scientific view, as per the IPCC, has got it more or less right. I accept that the scientists probably know what they are doing and we are warming the planet

    If we don't do something about emissions in the next few years, we are in real trouble. Action is needed now to mitigate the threat of serious warming and other impacts.

    A tough choice; the three views I quoted above are the closest matches.

    I went for the first of the above-quoted views because I think it is the most likely, but also have strong inclinations towards the other two.

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    parmenides3

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  • Location: Sunny Southsea
    • Location: Sunny Southsea
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    A tough choice; the three views I quoted above are the closest matches.

    I went for the first of the above-quoted views because I think it is the most likely, but also have strong inclinations towards the other two.

    I suspect that your and Magpie's comments reveal something which many of us feel; it really can be quite hard to be certain where we do stand, for a variety of reasons, and sometimes our opinions vacillate between different options, sometimes on a daily basis. Thanks for voting, anyway: any answer is a good answer, as far as I'm concerned. Even after a relatively small number of votes, it looks as if there may be some surprises in the results, but I'd appreciate it if the people who have voted don't 'give the game away', as it could slew the final results if other people are influenced by these.

    I'll do a full summary when it looks as if everyone who wants to has voted, perhaps in a week or so.

    :)P

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    Mondy Enthusiast

    Mondy

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  • Location: Larbert
    • Location: Larbert
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    Playing a little devil's advocate here, but:

    We are on the edge of a disaster, which we may not be able to prevent. We are messing up the earth's natural systems and will pay the price in some ways even if we act now.

    Do people actually think this? 3 so far...

    Why do they think this? Is it something they read/watched? :lol:

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    M'Lady Apprentice

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  • Location: Merseyside
    • Location: Merseyside
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    I've selected option 4...because I'm confused. Not just about global warming, but about everything generally.

    I also nodded in agreement as I read the following remarks...

    It is arrogant to presume that we can have any effect on Nature*.

    There may be some changes in the atmosphere, but the changes are all within natural limits. The 'scares' are exaggerations with a political motive.

    There is warming and CO2 may cause some of it, but the science is too uncertain to be sure.

    *Inasmuch as I think that, whatever we do, nature will fight back and win... but possibly not in a way that will benefit the human race.

    We may doom humanity, but I don't think we can doom the world.

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    Devonian Community Regular

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
    • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
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    It's the Sun wot causes it. But you knew i'd say that anyway :lol:

    How things change! A few years ago quite a lot of people would have gone for no warming, I'd be surprised if you wouldn't have joined them as well?

    You're going native :lol:

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    Mondy Enthusiast

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  • Location: Larbert
    • Location: Larbert
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    How things change! A few years ago quite a lot of people would have gone for no warming, I'd be surprised if you wouldn't have joined them as well?

    You're going native :lol:

    Well, actually, choice 1 was very tempting!

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    Devonian

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  • Location: Near Newton Abbot or east Dartmoor, Devon
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    I've selected option 4...because I'm confused. Not just about global warming, but about everything generally.

    I also nodded in agreement as I read the following remarks...

    It is arrogant to presume that we can have any effect on Nature*.

    There may be some changes in the atmosphere, but the changes are all within natural limits. The 'scares' are exaggerations with a political motive.

    There is warming and CO2 may cause some of it, but the science is too uncertain to be sure.

    *Inasmuch as I think that, whatever we do, nature will fight back and win... but possibly not in a way that will benefit the human race.

    We may doom humanity, but I don't think we can doom the world.

    'Natural limits' as in CO2 levels like this haven't happened for at least 600, 000 years and it is currently changing at a rate 35 times faster than ever measured you mean?

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    M'Lady Apprentice

    M'Lady

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  • Location: Merseyside
    • Location: Merseyside
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    But do you know definitively that they shouldn't be doing this? Who was doing the measuring 600,000 years ago?

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    parmenides3

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  • Location: Sunny Southsea
    • Location: Sunny Southsea
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    Please, please don't 'give the game away' about what the survey is saying; it could invalidate the results (inasmuch as they are at all scientific in the first place). Thank you for voting.

    :)P

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    The Penguin Apprentice

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  • Location: South of Glasgow 55.778, -4.086, 86m
    • Location: South of Glasgow 55.778, -4.086, 86m
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    But do you know definitively that they shouldn't be doing this? Who was doing the measuring 600,000 years ago?

    You’re being very firm Lady Penelope. Is Mondy holding you under duress?

    (one jiggle for yes, two jiggles for no – oh please let it be no, for a couple of reasons)

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    M'Lady Apprentice

    M'Lady

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    Please, please don't 'give the game away' about what the survey is saying; it could invalidate the results (inasmuch as they are at all scientific in the first place). Thank you for voting.

    :lol: P

    Well, having already waved my confused credentials earlier... if there's anything in my posts that you want removed P3, do please let me know and I'll try to fix it for you. :lol:

    You're being very firm Lady Penelope. Is Mondy holding you under duress?

    (one jiggle for yes, two jiggles for no – oh please let it be no, for a couple of reasons)

    I can be firm when I have to be Pingu... and I can catagorically state that dear Mondy has never held anything of mine.

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    There is warming and CO2 may cause some of it, but the science is too uncertain to be sure. The IPCC probably underestimates some of the natural forcings and overestimates the role of CO2.

    Is my answer, excellent question.

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  • Location: Sunny Southsea
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    HP; can you remove 'and that of the majority', so other people who haven't voted yet are not given 'hints about which they 'should' choose.

    Thanks.

    I'll edit this in a munite, as well.

    :)P

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