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  • Location: Bangor, Northern Ireland (20m asl, near coast)
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  • Location: Bangor, Northern Ireland (20m asl, near coast)
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They will not be creating any new atoms.

The idea is to collide particles at very high energies to create new particles. A large number of these will be just referred to as "resonances". They will exist meaningfully only in the data collected, as they will likely only exist for something like 10^-20 seconds (if I remember correctly). These particles are highly unstable and just decay into bog standard varieties very quickly. There are various conservation laws which allow the products of the collisions to be predicted quite accurately....within the standard model anyway.

There are stable exotic particles out there if the new theories are correct. Whether they can be found....I am not sure. Eventually all this stuff gets a bit garbled in your head, especially when the figures are meaningless to us (1Gev, for example) in everyday life. I think this new collider does not go to high enough energies to find many of the postulated particles. Supernovae and natural annihilations remain the ultimate particle accelerators....but of course we can't control them.

I believe the idea of getting new, clean energy from this new experiment is quite fantastical. If they find the Higgs Boson that would be nice, but there's a few other Bosons out there that we've known about for a long time and they don't lead to energy sources (a Boson is just a force-carrier).

I personally think that finding a Higgsino would be more exciting. Two birds with one stone, so to speak.

Well what i read i suppose stated them as particles, I guess I meant new particles.......I cant really tell the difference apart from I know I can't see them naturally lol. I just knew they would create something new because I remember making a joke that they might block their tunnel with new matter. I'd like to think there is a possibility of a new fuel/energy source from this experiment, I mean the collision does create a heat (apparently) 100,000 x greater than the centre of the sun....so obviously there must be a humungous amount of energy to create that heat.

I think opening a new dimension would be amazing, or a wormhole through space. It'd be like Stargate lol.

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  • Location: Home near Sellindge, 80m/250feet, 5miles from Coast
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  • Location: Cheltenham,Glos
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  • Location: Cheltenham,Glos
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Oh you!!! lol That webcam really frightened me lol.From being someone who suffers with anxiety that did me no good at all lol :) I thhink I best stay away from those cams lol

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Oh you!!! lol That webcam really frightened me lol.From being someone who suffers with anxiety that did me no good at all lol :D I thhink I best stay away from those cams lol

haha me too , my insides felt bad for a few secs :)

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  • Location: City of Gales, New Zealand, 150m ASL
  • Location: City of Gales, New Zealand, 150m ASL
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I agree that new energy is unlikely to be found from this, however perhaps from the experiments even if not particularly conclusive, they may find more effective ways of harnessing old energies such as Nuclear and possibly reducing the affects of waste, or perhaps making safer, that would be a bonus for the human race and for the planet in general. The big problem is whatever is found out is going to end up in the hands of governments, and that's just not an option if we find something we could potentially progress with.

I'm not convinced anything like this will come out of it either. The experiments really don't have much in common with nuclear physics aside from the fact that they both involve little things and lots of energy. The release of energy is going to be split between high energy photons, either directly or from breakdown of unstable resonances, and in the form of mass in heavy particles- the majority of which will decay. The release of energy is so very fast that there's no way we could harness it. It's like lightning bolts.

I really can't see the link between this experiment and nuclear power.

Posted
  • Location: Rossland BC Canada
  • Location: Rossland BC Canada
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Listen, if this black hole pops out in the Pacific Ocean and starts heading your way, I will be in a position to

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  • Location: City of Gales, New Zealand, 150m ASL
  • Location: City of Gales, New Zealand, 150m ASL
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Roger?! ROGER!

Posted
  • Location: frogmore south devon
  • Location: frogmore south devon
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an electrical fault has shut it down for about 2 months

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  • Location: Sunderland
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  • Location: Sunderland
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7632408.stm

Well according to auntie beeb, its now off-line until at least spring next year.....Big Bang?.....more like Damp Squib :lol:

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Update on the LHC......Its costing approx £14 million in repairs and is scheduled to be back on-line next summer....

full story... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7734251.stm

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  • Location: Tiree
  • Location: Tiree
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Listen, if this black hole pops out in the Pacific Ocean and starts heading your way, I will be in a position to

we should track it

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
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Update on the LHC......Its costing approx £14 million in repairs and is scheduled to be back on-line next summer....

Use some Polish builders, they'll do it for £2 million by Christmas :lol:

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It seems that the LHC Accident Investigation Board have recommended that an 'early warning system' be put in place....What exactly will this system say?.....''Warning.....Black Hole production imminent.....Oops, too late!"....lol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7766334.stm

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  • Location: Sunderland
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Lastest update on the LHC.......53 magnets to be replaced. at a cost of £14 million, repairs scheduled to be completed by the end of March, with LHC ready for resumption by June.... Linky

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  • Location: Bangor, Northern Ireland (20m asl, near coast)
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  • Location: Bangor, Northern Ireland (20m asl, near coast)
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Whats the chances of it breaking down consistently and then when 21/12/2012 comes along, it finally works but does create a black hole/disaster on global scale?, wouldn't it be annoying if all those 21/12/2012 believers were right and we had the death of our planet staring us in the face for the last 4 years. lol

P.S Just a joke, I don't think there is substantial risk with this project.

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  • Location: Sunderland
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Update on the LHC.....The re-launch has been put back until at least sept this year, as repairs are taking longer than expected.......Rumour has it, that workmen near the atlas detector have been going missing, as if they've disappeared from our universe......just prior to disappearing workmen have been heard to exclaim 'Holy smoke its gone black in here' :D:D

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  • Location: South Shields Tyne & Wear half mile from the coast.
  • Location: South Shields Tyne & Wear half mile from the coast.
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Latest on the Hadron Collider implies that it should be restarting in November but only using half the energy that it was designed for.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17566-large-hadron-collider-to-restart-at-half-its-designed-energy.html

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  • Location: Sunderland
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erm....a rather disturbing news story from the BBC..... linky... Al-Qaeda and the LHC definitely DO NOT mix!!! :)

Posted
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. UK
  • Location: Solihull, West Midlands. UK
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I don't see the point personally. What is the point of creating mini black holes? £14 million to get it fixed, now going to run on half power if and probably when 're-booted'.

@ The Watcher...

Maybe switch it on and give it full throttle on 21/12/2012 at 21:12:12 and then see what happens.

Think I'll be in two minds as to whether to put up the Christmas tree and decorations that year.

That said, it's supposed to be Nibiru that will smack us out of existence. Mayan calendar makes no further entries after 21/12/12.

We'll see otherwise.

Phil. (I'm still very sceptical!)

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  • Location: Cheltenham,Glos
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Hey Phil:)

You forgot to mention the killer solar flares, Gamma Ray Bursts,meteorite impacts, a Geomagnetic Reversal and loads more lol:lol:

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