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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam

    I have a lot of old weather articles that I haven't fully looked at yet and I stumbled across this that I have and I nearly fell off my chair when I read it.

    Could this be the earliest or one of the earliest known examples of someone putting a theory that increase carbon burning may be contributing to rising temperatures?

    The date 23rd February 1873

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......

    Well done Mr D.!

    The members of the 'privelledged classes' would have had plenty of time and opportunity to peice together the climatic changes within the growing cities in the latter half of the 1800's.

    Strange that with the dire descriptions of our beloved Manchester in the 1870's no thought to link the impact of the 'inferno' on anything other than the 'human condition'...........maybe Marx should have had some weather interests too..........

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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks

    another interesting cutting from the seemingly endless data banks of Mr D

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  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and heatwave
  • Location: Napton on the Hill Warwickshire 500ft

    Seem to suggest the heat given out contributes to rising temperatures , rather then any indepth theory

    Its funny to see someone from the 1873 talk about the old days with real winters :80:

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  • Location: Worthing West Sussex
  • Location: Worthing West Sussex

    http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/01/...amp;Qis=XL#qdig

    If you like digging through old literature, this site may may interest you. I picked a climate related article just for fun. I loved the little piece on the third page underneath the main article concerning the effects of fluoride in drinking water.

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  • Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
  • Location: Aberdeen, Scotland

    Have a look at what the winters did after he wrote this - colder to 1890, then warmer to 1928, then colder again to 1970 and now warmer. Gradual warming if you average over the whole of the CET from the start but we are still coming out of an ice age after all.

    Looking at the winter averages from his 'rigorous' period, I didn't find them particularly harsh compared to the 1677-1770 period.

    Plus ca change...

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  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine and 15-25c
  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)

    am i reading it right?...is he infering that because more gas and oil are burnt in winter it is raising temperatures..kinda like a heat island effect rather than co2 emmissions?

    by the way i assume mr data that you source your information from the times online archive???

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam
    by the way i assume mr data that you source your information from the times online archive???

    No, that is from Symon's Meteorological Magazine. Numerous volumes of which I have.

    Many of the Times articles that I have posted in the past are the Real McCoy.

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  • Location: Cheddar Valley, 20mtrs asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and lots of it or warm and sunny, no mediocre dross
  • Location: Cheddar Valley, 20mtrs asl
    No, that is from Symon's Meteorological Magazine. Numerous volumes of which I have.

    Many of the Times articles that I have posted in the past are the Real McCoy.

    Have you amassed your own personal library, if so can I come and camp out in it for a week or three please? I won't make any mess, you'll hardly know I'm there, I'll just sit quietly reading, promise.

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  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
  • Weather Preferences: Sunshine and 15-25c
  • Location: Edmonton Alberta(via Chelmsford, Exeter & Calgary)
    No, that is from Symon's Meteorological Magazine. Numerous volumes of which I have.

    Many of the Times articles that I have posted in the past are the Real McCoy.

    wow..that must be a lot of effort on your part to find articles, scan them, then post them...anyway if any other members who dont have mr datas library and dedication like me..should join the times online archive...fabulous source of articles on any topic.

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