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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks

    as so often happens with media headlines; they don't match up to the 'quotes' if they are quotes given in the main text.

    No one appears to have said it will be one of the 5 warmest!

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  • Location: Doncaster 50 m asl
  • Location: Doncaster 50 m asl

    I assume John that the reference to the ranking of 2009 is implicitly based on the first paragraph which says "The average global temperature for 2009 is expected to be more than 0.4C above the long term average, the Met Office and University of East Anglia researchers said..."

    Why is the 2007 error margin so large on this diagram?

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
    as so often happens with media headlines; they don't match up to the 'quotes' if they are quotes given in the main text.

    No one appears to have said it will be one of the 5 warmest!

    Well the Met Office have...

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pres...pr20081230.html

    I quote from the first paragraph "2009 is expected to be one of the top-five warmest years on record, despite continued cooling of huge areas of the tropical Pacific Ocean, a phenomenon known as La Niña."

    But I see what you mean that nobody said it in the article, but sadly the Met Office have indeed said it.

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  • Location: West Bromwich (West Mids) 170m ASL
  • Location: West Bromwich (West Mids) 170m ASL

    I really hope they are wrong in thier predictions- I cannot stand another sweltering summer. The last 2 summers have been a welcome break from heatwaves and hot, still days although this has been at the expense of many households/ businesses being flooded due to the amount of rainfall.

    I just hope the Jet Stream stays south of the Uk all summer again so that horrible hot air stays away but i wouldnt say no to a few good thunderstorms but i can't have my cake and eat it!

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
    I really hope they are wrong in thier predictions- I cannot stand another sweltering summer. The last 2 summers have been a welcome break from heatwaves and hot, still days although this has been at the expense of many households/ businesses being flooded due to the amount of rainfall.

    I just hope the Jet Stream stays south of the Uk all summer again so that horrible hot air stays away but i wouldnt say no to a few good thunderstorms but i can't have my cake and eat it!

    I don't want a sweltering summer either - horrible nights, uncomfortable days, swarms of bugs - could do without it all really! Although I don't mind the odd few days of +30c, I couldn't cope with it for a long period of time. Fortunately I was in Portugal during the 2003 heatwave - which incredible was several degrees cooler than Britain.

    Plus I want a cooler year to try and put a tiny bit more pressure on the Global Warming theory - there has to be some straws to clutch...

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  • Location: West Bromwich (West Mids) 170m ASL
  • Location: West Bromwich (West Mids) 170m ASL
    I don't want a sweltering summer either - horrible nights, uncomfortable days, swarms of bugs - could do without it all really! Although I don't mind the odd few days of +30c, I couldn't cope with it for a long period of time. Fortunately I was in Portugal during the 2003 heatwave - which incredible was several degrees cooler than Britain.

    Plus I want a cooler year to try and put a tiny bit more pressure on the Global Warming theory - there has to be some straws to clutch...

    Oh yes the nights are the worst-you can't sleep-its awful! As you say wouldnt mind a few hot days myself but a heatwave that drags on and on i could REALLY do without!

    Also, i would like a few more months where the CET is lower than average, just to stop these overwhelming GW predictions. Mind you, saying that, there have been a few more lower than average CETs recently... I think :D . I think july 07 was one and im sure last month was as well- Or am i talking drivel? :)

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  • Location: Hamsterley , Co. Durham
  • Location: Hamsterley , Co. Durham

    I'd love a long hot summer :yahoo: Mainly so I don't have to wash my car nearly every day to keep it semi clean. I live out in the country and when it rains the farmers drag mud all over the roads.

    Roll on a boiling summer :lol:

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......

    Boiling summer ,hot nights and bugs...yeah! Bring it on!!!

    Dept. work and pensions have been in consultation with MetO regarding the introduction of 'Warm weather payments' for those who need to keep cool...............well if every other year is set to be a '2003' by 2050 they'll need it for their air conditioning.....now how the hell will they power it???

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  • Location: Dalrymple, Ayrshire, Scotland
  • Location: Dalrymple, Ayrshire, Scotland

    well, they just about say the same thing every year! i stopped listening to them a while ago. Best to see what happens. I wouldnt mind a warm summer, around 20-25 tops, thats just nice!

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......

    Lets not confuse 'global' with 'local'. The 'predictions' are (statistically) within 0.04c of the discovered average (come year end).

    I have the fear that the 'arctic situation' is leading to novel synoptics which ,for 2 summers at least, have depressed the long wave of the jet south of us (300miles further east has seen heatwave and drought as the wave shifts back north). I wouldn't mind this pattern so much if it budged 300 miles west and had us (as we have been most of the winter) to the edge of continental H.P. and it rained over the Atlantic!!!

    Because of the rapidity of the Arctic climatic change (over the past 5 years) this may well be a fleeting as, once the majority of the pack (due to it's thinness) melts out prior to Aug (and in-situ ,not bringing cold water down the east coast of Greenland into the Atlantic), then the better the chance of rainfall patterns not being influenced by extra condensation at it's lowest margins whilst over the 'ice water'.

    That said we may well find that the jet is north of us this summer giving the European community another taste of flooding (remember the flooding in Europe in 2003/2005?) whilst we bask in humid Atlantic warmth.

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  • Location: West Bromwich (West Mids) 170m ASL
  • Location: West Bromwich (West Mids) 170m ASL
    I'd love a long hot summer :) Mainly so I don't have to wash my car nearly every day to keep it semi clean. I live out in the country and when it rains the farmers drag mud all over the roads.

    Roll on a boiling summer :o

    Yes but you would still have to do it nearly every day if you are a perfectionist! :o Mainly due to quick build up of things like road film/fly spatter and the inevitable brake dust. And also if it was that hot you wouldnt really be able to wash your car properly becuase as you wash it the shampoo/water would dry uber quickly and would leave yucky water marks. Unless you wash your car in the middle of the night that is! (which i have done many a time!)

    I tend to wash the car when i know we are going to have 3 or so dry days so my hard work isnt spoiled for a few days! Sad i know! Oh and yes farmers and mud are a pain in the bum! Bit like potholes!

    Gosh talk about off topic! Ahem. :)

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