Radar

[peterf]

is it playing up,seems to be stuck at 10.10 here

[SteveB]

Me too 10.10am yesterday

[peterf]

looks like it has gremlins

[SteveB]

Could do with it today, looks like there might be some storms around later

[peterf]

Could do with it today, looks like there might be some storms around later

ive emailed asmin but heard nothing back as yet.

[Marcus_surfer]

same here it is stuck, and seems to have yesterday mornings rainfall showing up

[peterf]

just spoke to paul,should be back up shortly

all fixed now,thanks chaps

[SteveB]

Yep back up and running

[NL]

Not an issue with the NW 5min radar but more to do with the new regional 1 million pound radar at

High Moorsley near Sunderland, for a few days now the radar has shown precip(even when clear) over us but the shape and movement doesn't really alter, i wonder if they are tweaking with it as it looks like an issue with the angle (azimuth) and could it be to low and its hitting the tops of the hills around there..?

Hers a few snap shots of NW radar from yesterday 15:10 yesterday.

6 hours later still there..

Then around 2:30am it disappeared only to return at 04:10 but much bigger..!!

09:10 this morning little change.

20 mins ago.

The very small bright echo is pretty roughly the site of the radar thats been on the radar for months now..I've scanned the net for possible answers but found nothing, has anyone got any ideas?

Cheers

Paul.

[Paul]

It's going to be consistent anaprop caused by something - will drop the meto a line and see if I can't find out more.

[NL]

Typical of the North East, does anything operate correctly here?(thats what they get for building it in Sunderland)..!!! B) .. Thanks Paul i'm interested in what the Met O have say and to see if a solution can be found.

[NL]

Hi Paul, any news from the meto at all? ... Ive been doing a little investigating over the last week

and ive come to the conclusion that this may be 'ground clutter'. Most of this can be removed using a 'clutter' filter but unfortunately the filter has to be switched to the off position when ppn is mixed with

the anaprop, it looks like the filter has been applied over the last week as ppn seems to just vanish as it

approaches then the anaprop will appear along with the ppn. I'm now able to distinguish the ppn from the

anaprop but it is still a bit of a nuisance...What an enigma this is, shame all the 'boffins' cant find a solution

to this problem that has plagued forecasters since the introduction of the weather radar.

I wonder if the mast was erected higher could ease/solve the anomally.??

Cheers Paul.

[Paul]

Just spoken to the meto helpdesk, hopefully this will be resolved later today or tomorrow morning..

[NL]

Excellent news Paul.... Thanks...with it being a new radar it was sure to have teething problems just happy that the problem can be resolved.

[NL]

Looks like they've managed to resolve it this afternoon (Hooray..!!) for the last 50 mins no ghastly

anaprop has appeared....

Thanks again Paul.....

[peterf]

Hi Paul, any news from the meto at all? ... Ive been doing a little investigating over the last week

and ive come to the conclusion that this may be 'ground clutter'. Most of this can be removed using a 'clutter' filter but unfortunately the filter has to be switched to the off position when ppn is mixed with

the anaprop, it looks like the filter has been applied over the last week as ppn seems to just vanish as it

approaches then the anaprop will appear along with the ppn. I'm now able to distinguish the ppn from the

anaprop but it is still a bit of a nuisance...What an enigma this is, shame all the 'boffins' cant find a solution

to this problem that has plagued forecasters since the introduction of the weather radar.

I wonder if the mast was erected higher could ease/solve the anomally.??

Cheers Paul.

your the man Paul .thanks very much mate

[NL]

Anaprop is back (2:40am)..... looking doubtful that the problem can be resolved infact its looking worse..!!

[Paul]

I'm sure they will sort it - have contacted them to let them know it's back and they are looking into it.

[NL]

Thanks Paul, ...I have faith..!! lol

[Paul]

Looks like the anaprop was removed again yesterday pm, so hopefully they'll be able to keep it out of the data now

[NL]

Yes Paul i noticed that yesterday but didnt want to say anything like i did earlier as not

to jinx it again..!!l LOL, Hopefully that'll be the end of the dreaded anaprop and thanks

again Paul.

Paul

[Andy Bown]

When viewing the radar on several days recently, including today, the 10.10 slide is inaccurate and shows rainfall from another day (not sure which day though).

[Karl]

sorry for the delay - strange problem that one but all fixed now

[Terminal Moraine]

On the subject of rainfall radar. Excellent as the NW radar is, with the post code zoom etc, I seem to remember some time ago talk of having the same radar as an overlay on map, as opposed to the current rectangle with a few significant population centres represented.

I wondered if this was still ongoing as it would be a major step forward and would do away with having to enter various different postcodes to see just where that vicious looking shower has got to or where the front edge of the snow is.

I know it's possible to work this out roughly with the current system, and I'm not decrying it in the least, but I do love my accuracy and a map overlay would be the piece de resistance.

[Paul]

Yes this is definitely something we're planning and have been doing some work on - no eta on it as yet as it's quite a major job but we're on the case!