London And The South East Regional Discussion Thread - Part 4

[kold weather]

Here is a new thread for the SE and London. Alot of uncertainty over the weekend so please try not to get too attached to the current set of charts, as they may change.

[jackie]

here in north kent for the third night in a row we have had no frost.... wondering why as its so damn cold out there .. and all the local weather forecasts said hard frost for us...

any ideas ?

[Biggin]

KW can you move my post 662 over here please:)

Edited February 2, 2012 by Biggin

[warrenb]

here in north kent for the third night in a row we have had no frost.... wondering why as its so damn cold out there .. and all the local weather forecasts said hard frost for us...

any ideas ?

You have had a frost, just not a Hoar frost as the air is so dry.

[Coast]

can you move my post 662 over here please:)

Interesting at T48. Attacked from both sides

http://www.metoffice...e_pressure.html

[Paul Sherman]

here in north kent for the third night in a row we have had no frost.... wondering why as its so damn cold out there .. and all the local weather forecasts said hard frost for us...

any ideas ?

You most certainly have had a very hard frost - Probably the most severe since the 10/11 Winter. Go outside and try to kick the Grass with your heel, you might injure yourself in the process as the Ground is hard with Frost. As the poster above said no saturation in the air with very very dry dewpoints means you cant actually see the frost but it is Penetrating.

[Met4Cast]

So once again we're looking at "tomorrow"

I expect tomorrow will stay largely dry.

[kold weather]

You most certainly have had a very hard frost - Probably the most severe since the 10/11 Winter. Go outside and try to kick the Grass with your heel, you might injure yourself in the process as the Ground is hard with Frost. As the poster above said no saturation in the air with very very dry dewpoints means you cant actually see the frost but it is Penetrating.

Yes, its shows how uncommon this set-up is that we have a frost even though it doesn't show. Not often we get this sort of very cold dry air from Europe!

Actually surprisingly good agreement on the 00/06z runs today of the front over the weekend, all 4 of the big models are pretty much identical...

[jackie]

You most certainly have had a very hard frost - Probably the most severe since the 10/11 Winter. Go outside and try to kick the Grass with your heel, you might injure yourself in the process as the Ground is hard with Frost. As the poster above said no saturation in the air with very very dry dewpoints means you cant actually see the frost but it is Penetrating.

ahh ! ty for explaining

[tinybill]

here in north kent for the third night in a row we have had no frost.... wondering why as its so damn cold out there .. and all the local weather forecasts said hard frost for us...

any ideas ?

it was -3 here dont know if the air so cold or the beast from the east stops it , i was down felixstowe a little while ago the wind was biting and the sea was rougth , well all eyes on john hammond to-night

[Neilsouth]

So once again we're looking at "tomorrow"

I expect tomorrow will stay largely dry.

It was always meant to be friday with an outside chance of a snow flurry wed - thurs

[GoonerGregg77]

Met Office warnings? Hmmmm.......still not there. I don't think I've ever seen so much uncertainty from them.

There outlook suggests " Several bands of sleet & snow crossing our region " But still no warnings.

[Amanzi]

The ground is rock hard! Good thing because my large black evil beasty (large dog in avatar), cant dig holes anymore. He was rather miffed. I am actually quite glad we have had this cold in advance of any snow as whatever hits the ground now will not melt as it usually does. I'm still a bit on the fence as to whether the front gets this far east and if it does will it have anything left to give? Guess it is just a waiting game now.

I did get the window cleaners in and replaced the light bulb on the back yard light in preparation for lamppost watching.

[k66yla]

Met Office warnings? Hmmmm.......still not there. I don't think I've ever seen so much uncertainty from them.

There outlook suggests " Several bands of sleet & snow crossing our region " But still no warnings.

I was just looking at that............very strange!

[kold weather]

Met Office warnings? Hmmmm.......still not there. I don't think I've ever seen so much uncertainty from them.

There outlook suggests " Several bands of sleet & snow crossing our region " But still no warnings.

My gut is we will see a warning very soon, but they maybe waiting to see the 06z runs before commiting to issuing a warning for some parts to the country. I'm pretty certain we will require a yellow warning at least.

[Radiating Dendrite]

Met Office warnings? Hmmmm.......still not there. I don't think I've ever seen so much uncertainty from them.

There outlook suggests " Several bands of sleet & snow crossing our region " But still no warnings.

There are plenty of time for warnings.

Bit stupid if they put one up and then have change it due to a shift in the models.

Be patient.

[BLUNT]

Pobably be a mad panic for Salt now, places like B@Q probably sold out

[Kent Snow]

A lovely sunny freezing cold day here in Canterbury, A few cumulus plus a biting north easterly wind.

[danm]

Met Office warnings? Hmmmm.......still not there. I don't think I've ever seen so much uncertainty from them.

There outlook suggests " Several bands of sleet & snow crossing our region " But still no warnings.

Chris Fawkes said on BBC weather at 1030 that the Met will put up the warnings later this morning.

[NO LONGER POSTING]

Pobably be a mad panic for Salt now, places like B@Q probably sold out

I think this will happen when the met office warnings come out...Because this is the most viewed weather site in the UK

[SLEETY]

Latest forecast had snow mounting up in the se as the front stalls ,dividing line between snow or rain seems to be where I live anyone E of Brighton get your spades ready :lol:

[lewis028]

Pobably be a mad panic for Salt now, places like B@Q probably sold out

Yeah iv seen salt being sold at the front of the store in tesco and with loads of snow shovels! lol I would expect a warning from the met office around lunch time when they do there updates, would of thought we'd be in the advisory.

[GoonerGregg77]

Orange (Be prepared) warning all day long for the SE once it does go up from them.

Still strange whilst I am patient, this is obviously being debated by the MO, and will come out later today I'd suspect.

[NO LONGER POSTING]

In my opinion that front will reach us..BUT...How far it gets into our region I don't know..

[Jimmyh]

here in north kent for the third night in a row we have had no frost.... wondering why as its so damn cold out there .. and all the local weather forecasts said hard frost for us...

any ideas ?

Hi Jackie

I think you will find that there was a frost but it was slightly different. it was a penetrating frost. not an air frost. i touched the ground this morning and it was rock solid. Agreed no hoar frost but there most def was a frost