Hurricane Isaac

[matty40s]

The UKMet were for several days predicting a very different outcome to the majority of the models.

the centre is bobbling around now, and doesn't seem to want to follow a direct route, stalling may give Isaac more time to strengthen, however, anything more than cat2 is unlikely.

[geoffw]

epic fail of a 'cane'

[AderynCoch]

Still a tropical storm!

Isaac has foregone wind speed for wind radii, rather like Ike four years ago but then Ike had already been a powerful major hurricane before entering the Gulf of Mexico. I can't see past Category 2 now, but the large wind field will still make storm surge a threat.

[knocker]

BULLETIN

TROPICAL STORM ISAAC ADVISORY NUMBER 26...CORRECTED

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012

1000 AM CDT MON AUG 27 2012

CORRECTION TO FIRST DISCUSSION PARAGRAPH

...ISAAC MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE EASTERN GULF OF

MEXICO...POSES SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE THREAT TO THE NORTHERN GULF

COAST...

SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION

-----------------------------------------------

LOCATION...26.1N 85.3W

ABOUT 250 MI...400 KM S OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA

ABOUT 310 MI...500 KM SE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...65 MPH...100 KM/H

PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 305 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...22 KM/H

MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...988 MB...29.18 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS

--------------------

CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

ALL TROPICAL STORM WARNINGS HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED EAST AND SOUTH OF

AUCILLA RIVER FLORIDA.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...

* EAST OF MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA TO DESTIN FLORIDA...INCLUDING

METROPOLITAN NEW ORLEANS...LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN...AND LAKE MAUREPAS

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...

* INTRACOASTAL CITY TO MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...

* EAST OF DESTIN FLORIDA TO THE AUCILLA RIVER

* INTRACOASTAL CITY TO MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...

* EAST OF SABINE PASS TO WEST OF INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA

A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED

SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND

PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE

WITHIN THE WATCH AREA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE

EXPECTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE

POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 48 HOURS.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE

INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY

YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE.

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK

------------------------------

AT 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ISAAC WAS

LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 26.1 NORTH...LONGITUDE 85.3 WEST. ISAAC IS

MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/H...AND THIS GENERAL

MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TODAY WITH A GRADUAL DECREASE IN

FORWARD SPEED. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF ISAAC WILL

MOVE OVER THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO TODAY AND APPROACH THE

NORTHERN GULF COAST IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA ON TUESDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 65 MPH...100 KM/H...WITH HIGHER

GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 48

HOURS...AND ISAAC IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A HURRICANE BEFORE REACHING

THE NORTHERN GULF COAST.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 205 MILES...335 KM

FROM THE CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 988 MB...29.18 INCHES.

HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND

----------------------

STORM SURGE...THE COMBINATION OF A STORM SURGE AND THE TIDE WILL

CAUSE NORMALLY DRY AREAS NEAR THE COAST TO BE FLOODED BY RISING

WATERS. THE WATER COULD REACH THE FOLLOWING DEPTHS ABOVE GROUND IF

THE PEAK SURGE OCCURS AT THE TIME OF HIGH TIDE...

* SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...6 TO 12 FT

* SOUTH-CENTRAL LOUISIANA...3 TO 6 FT

* FLORIDA PANHANDLE...3 TO 6 FT

* FLORIDA WEST COAST INCLUDING APALACHEE BAY...1 TO 3 FT

THE DEEPEST WATER WILL OCCUR ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST IN AREAS OF

ONSHORE FLOW. SURGE-RELATED FLOODING DEPENDS ON THE RELATIVE TIMING

OF THE SURGE AND THE TIDAL CYCLE...AND CAN VARY GREATLY OVER SHORT

DISTANCES. FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE SEE

PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE. NEAR THE

COAST...THE SURGE WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY LARGE AND DANGEROUS WAVES.

WIND...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO SPREAD NORTHWARD

INTO THE FLORIDA BIG BEND AREA AND THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE IN THE

TROPICAL STORM WARNING AREA TONIGHT.

TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO REACH THE NORTHERN GULF

COAST IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA LATER TONIGHT...WITH HURRICANE

CONDITIONS EXPECTED ON TUESDAY.

RAINFALL...ISAAC IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAIN

ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA...WHERE

ISOLATED MAXIMUM STORM TOTAL AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE.

TOTAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 6 TO 12 INCHES...WITH MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF

18 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE IN SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA...SOUTHERN

MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHERN ALABAMA AND THE WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

TORNADOES...ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE IN CENTRAL AND

NORTHERN FLORIDA TODAY...AND ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF COAST TONIGHT

AND TUESDAY.

SURF...DANGEROUS SURF AND RIP CURRENT CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE TO

AFFECT THE FLORIDA COASTLINE AND THE FLORIDA KEYS DURING THE NEXT

DAY OR SO...AND BEGIN TO AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST

LATER TODAY.

NEXT ADVISORY

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NEXT INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY...100 PM CDT.

NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...400 PM CDT.

$$

FORECASTER STEWART

[summer blizzard]

Issac has continued to strengthen and be west more than predicted, now 984mb but importantly the wind maximum has come from near the centre (inner maximum), recon below about 15 minutes ago reported 63KT at FL which is borderline hurricane status if verified.

180130 2543N 08539W 8410 01443 //// +164 //// 241058 060 060 007 01

180200 2542N 08538W 8408 01450 //// +181 //// 239060 063 061 007 01

[summer blizzard]

D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 64kts (~ 73.6mph)

E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 40 nautical miles (46 statute miles) to the NW (318°) of center fix

About as borderline as it gets but with a few hours to the next advisory about 2 hours away they will probably call it.

Very likely that we will have Hurricane Issac!

[Iceberg]

He is starting to get tighter and being board line hurricane, Nhc will probably call it this close to the us. Still suffering from shear though but apart from this a classic comma low end hurricane.

[Iceberg]

been checking him out till it makes my eyes hurt on zoomed in a rapidfire sat. Shortwave IR seems to show a 10-15m eye with a circular but weak eye wall. recon have just done a ne to sw pass and winds seem to confirm this.

Based on that and the singular comma inflow i would say that isaac is intensifying(first real time for ages).

Winds should be responding soon as well.

The eye is far from clear and is far from being strong, however if it continues then we could get a 970mb system by morning.

Another thing to note is that GFS stall isaac pretty much over new orleans, with the cdo overtop for approx 30 hrs or so, but feeder bands before this giving 45hrs of potential heavy rain. Storm surge is looking at 8-10ft or so with possible another 1ft of rain. Further intensification would raise this, general opinion seems to be that 12-14ft is the real danger zone for the NO area.

[mezzacyclone]

here we are, 73kn (83.9mph) FLW 30 sec. N25.66 W86.58 SW of centre,,,

Just in time and enough for the 4pm (CDT) new adv to confirm cat1?

but maybe not given the est surf winds reduction factor which is showing mid 60`s (mph)?

Edited August 27, 2012 by mezzacyclone

[Iceberg]

String of 70+ kt winds in the sw eye wall, should be enough just to confirm hurricane and shows the winds are finally responding

195200 2541N 08635W 8411 01474 //// +170 //// 286072 073 053 007 01

195230 2540N 08635W 8421 01466 //// +179 //// 284073 074 051 006 01

195300 2539N 08636W 8405 01484 //// +181 //// 284072 072 050 005 01

195330 2538N 08637W 8413 01478 //// +185 //// 284070 072 048 006 01

195400 2537N 08638W 8408 01486 //// +181 //// 286071 072 050 006 01

195430 2536N 08639W 8413 01482 //// +174 //// 287069 070 048 007 01

$$

[mezzacyclone]

these FLW`s are at 4700ft Ice, Will/Can NHC take those on face value for a Cat1 given the est surface winds are lesser?

[Iceberg]

Sorry on phone ATM

At that level they will apply a 10 percentage reduction ie 73/74 kt flight winds for a 65kt cane

Vortex d surface winds were 64kts

Still boarderline but around 10 readings were taken above 70ft

Cheers

(null)

[Iceberg]

Vortex data from that pass showed 982mb with a 20 mile circular eye open to the north

Glad I wasn't seeing things earlier

(null)

[geoffw]

i know its very nearly impossible but is there a remote chance of this cane doing a wilma - explosively intensify into a cat 5?

[Iceberg]

Update. 60 kt so just shy of a cane pressure 981mb

(null)

[summer blizzard]

THE MUCH ANTICIPATED INTENSIFICATION PROCESS APPEARS TO HAVE FINALLY

STARTED BASED ON REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE

AIRCRAFT AND FROM NEARBY NOAA BUOY 42003. THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS

DECREASED BY AT LEAST 7 MB SINCE THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. THE HIGHEST

FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OBSERVED HAVE BEEN 74 KT IN THE SOUTHWEST

QUADRANT AND THE HIGHEST BIAS-ADJUSTED SFMR WINDS ARE NEAR 58 KT.

THESE DATA SUPPORT AN INTENSITY OF 60 KT.

They went for 70mph and 981mb but upped to 100mph at landfall.

It should be noted that this is deeper than all models bar HWRF expected for this time.

7mb in 6 hours if it continued until landfall would give the 30-40mb i expected. Sub-960mb still on, cat 3 potentially.

[summer blizzard]

i know its very nearly impossible but is there a remote chance of this cane doing a wilma - explosively intensify into a cat 5?

Not much, no. It only has about 24 hours more over water.

It is however rapidly intensifying since 25mb per 24 hours is the threshold i believe.

At any rate, a strengthening cat 2/3 with TS winds extending over 200 miles is going to swamp the outlying areas of New Orleans even if the main city stays protected.

[The Eagle]

Still not hurricane strength according to latest advisories.

Edited August 28, 2012 by The Eagle

[Iceberg]

Morning all

Quick one from me ATM Nhc still have this as a ts not a cane as updated just now.

Recon pass has found pressure of 978mb with max flight winds of 75kts

Organisation is currently poor of Isaac

Nhc has a max surface wind of 60kts.

However an oil rig 90 miles from the centre with a pressure of 1002mb recorded max winds of 58 kts

Given the above I find it highly unlikely that max winds are 60kts but that's Nhcs call

Rainfall Max's for new Orleans are 18 inches

Storm surge s between 6-12ft

[Coast]

Will it won't it?

[Coast]

Tropical Storm Isaac: Obama declares Louisiana emergency

Residents of a trailer park in Vero Beach, Florida, compared the sound of Tropical Storm Issac to a "freight train... maybe like a jet plane"

President Barack Obama has declared a state of emergency in Louisiana, as Tropical Storm Isaac threatens to hit the US as a category two hurricane. Isaac is heading for New Orleans, possibly as early as Tuesday night, nearly seven years to the day after Hurricane Katrina devastated the city. The Republican Party delayed by a day the start of its national convention in Tampa, Florida.

Isaac killed at least 24 people in Haiti and the Dominican Republic. The storm wrought significant flooding and damage in the Caribbean. Late on Monday, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) warned Isaac could reach category two strength, with top winds of 100mph (160km/h). The forecast was revised up from category one. President Obama approved Louisiana's request for a federal disaster declaration, making available federal funds for recovery activities such as clearing debris.

Earlier, the governors of Louisiana, Florida, Mississippi and Alabama declared emergencies in their states. The Republican governors of Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi have cancelled their trips to their party's convention to focus on disaster prevention efforts. Isaac is already a large storm and could bring significant damage to areas within hundreds of miles of its centre, officials warn. The NHC said that at 23:00 EDT on Monday (03:00 GMT on Tuesday), Isaac was centred about 189 miles (305km) south-east of the mouth of the Mississippi river, with maximum sustained wind speeds of 70mph (110km/h).

The storm is moving forward at about 10mph and storm winds extend out about 205 miles (335km) from the centre. The NHC warned that wind speeds could reach between 96-110mph before the storm makes landfall. Evacuations have already been ordered for some low-lying Louisiana parishes and parts of coastal Alabama. Wednesday is the seventh anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, which strengthened in the Gulf to a category five storm, before weakening to category three by the time it reached New Orleans. Federal officials said the levees around New Orleans are now equipped to handle storms stronger than Isaac. Levee failures led to the catastrophic flooding in the area after Katrina.

"It's a much more robust system than what it was when Katrina came ashore," Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator Craig Fugate said in a conference call with reporters. Mr Fugate also said that Isaac was not just a New Orleans storm. "This is a Gulf Coast storm. Some of the heaviest impact may be in Alabama and Mississippi," he said. Linda Grandison, who fled her home in 2005 and waited on a bridge for three days before she was rescued by a helicopter, has also decided to leave early, the Associated Press reported. "You can't predict God's work," she said. "This is nerve-wracking. I hate leaving my house, worrying if it's going to flood or get looted. But I'm not going to stay in the city again."

Evacuations have already been put in place for Louisiana's St Charles Parish, near New Orleans, and some areas of coastal Alabama. A hurricane warning is already in effect for some 300 miles of the Gulf Coast in four states from Louisiana to Florida, with lower-level warnings issued for many areas along Florida's west coast. Florida Governor Rick Scott told reporters on Monday that 60,000 people were already without power as a result of the storm. Mr Knabb said "storm surges" of 6-12ft (1.83-3.66m) were possible along the Gulf coast, with the biggest danger in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. As much as 1ft of rain could fall, he added. US offshore oil production is expected to be badly hit, as are refineries in lowland Louisiana. As much as 78% of the Gulf's crude oil production and 48% of its natural gas production had been closed ahead of the storm, government figures showed. BP and Chevron have shut down oil production in the Gulf, and BP is evacuating its platform there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19389087

[knocker]

IF at 0715z

[Coast]

Landfall 7 years to the day after Katrina?

Google map of potential track of Issac:

NEW ORLEANS (CNN) — Tropical Storm Isaac neared hurricane strength Monday evening, closing on the Gulf Coast with a projected landfall on the anniversary of the devastating Hurricane Katrina.

Isaac was forecast to strike land south of New Orleans early Wednesday, perhaps as a Category 2 hurricane with top winds of about 100 mph. Its projected arrival date would be seven years to the day after the deadly Katrina, leaving much of the Gulf Coast with “a high level of anxiety,†as New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu put it Monday. Residents of low-lying coastal areas from the Florida Panhandle to southeastern Louisiana were ordered to evacuate ahead of storm surges and heavy rain, while Landrieu acknowledged his own jitters due to the coincidence.

Isaac is expected to be weaker than Katrina, which came ashore as a Category 3 hurricane with 125-mph winds. But New Orleans could start to feel tropical storm force winds by midnight Monday, and while Isaac may veer off its currently projected course, “It seems to be settling into a pathway and a speed that is becoming predictable,†Landrieu said. “It is quite ironic that we have a hurricane threatening us on the seventh anniversary of Katrina,†he said. But he added that as of Monday afternoon, “There is nothing this storm will bring us that we are not capable of handling.â€

Most of Katrina’s nearly 1,800 deaths occurred when the protective levees around New Orleans failed, flooding the city. But Landrieu said the levees have had $10 billion in improvements since 2005, and the city’s pump stations have backup generators ready in case of electrical outages. Isaac faltered a bit in the Gulf of Mexico as an eye wall that had been forming appeared to break up Monday afternoon, slowing its development, National Hurricane Center Deputy Director Ed Rappaport told CNN. But as of 8 p.m. ET, its top winds remained 70 mph — just under hurricane strength — and it was expected to become a hurricane “soon,†the Miami-based hurricane center reported.

Isaac was centered about 230 miles (370 kilometers) southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River, and it was moving to the northwest at 10 mph — a projected track that brings it ashore early Wednesday morning in the marshes downriver from New Orleans.

But tropical-storm-force winds extended more than 200 miles from the center, and hurricane warnings stretched from Morgan City, Louisiana, to the Alabama-Florida border. Tropical storm warnings extended eastward to Destin, Florida, and westward from Morgan City to Intracoastal City, Louisiana, about 150 miles west of New Orleans.

There was also the potential for a lot of rain, as much as 18 inches in a few areas of Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi, the hurricane center said. Rainfall totals could approach 20 inches on the eastern Florida peninsula.As the storm heads north, its rain would benefit some drought-ravaged states like Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana and Missouri. Landrieu has not ordered an evacuation of his city, most of which is below sea level and protected by a network of levees. But he said he would “strongly urge†about 900 people who live outside the levee system to leave — and if anyone else is thinking about getting out, “now would be a good time to go.â€

Others in low-lying Louisiana parishes and in coastal counties and barrier islands of Mississippi, Alabama and northwest Florida were told to clear out ahead of the storm. In Alabama, state Emergency Management Agency Director Art Faulkner warned that strong winds and high water may affect the Mobile area even if the storm hits as far west as Louisiana.

“It is a very large storm,†Faulkner said. “And oftentimes we confuse and focus on a specific dot that may be identified as the center of the storm when very dangerous conditions may exist as far as 200 miles from that specific dot.†The storm lashed Cuba and the Florida Keys over the weekend after slamming into Haiti, where at least 19 people had been reported dead by Monday, the country’s civil protection agency reported. The Hurricane Center projected storm surges of 3 to 6 feet for the Florida Panhandle, 6 to 9 feet for the Alabama coast and 6 to 12 feet for the Mississippi and southeastern Louisiana shores.

In Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, Hancock County authorities ordered residents of low-lying areas to evacuate Monday evening. The National Park Service had already ordered visitors to leave the barrier islands off the Mississippi coast. Jackson County, which includes the coastal cities of Pascagoula, Gautier and Ocean Springs, ordered evacuations for anyone living south of U.S. Highway 90 — a major artery along the Mississippi coast — or for those living in mobile homes, along rivers and in other vulnerable areas.

“Those residents that experienced flooding during Hurricane Katrina should evaluate what the effects of the possible 8-12 foot tidal surge would have to their property and make an informed decision with regard to evacuation,†a message from the county Board of Supervisors added.

But on Dauphin Island, south of Mobile, many residents were preparing to sit out Isaac at home, said Alexa Alexander. “We are boarding up (and) getting supplies ready,†said Alexander, who lives and tends bar on the island. “We’ve had a little bit of people leave Dauphin Island, but not much. Most of the locals are going to ride it out.†Dauphin Island was badly damaged by Katrina, which cut the island in half — a gouge since filled by sand and rock. The skies there were just clouding up Monday afternoon, Alexander said.

Louisiana resident Ryan Unger plans to stay in place despite an evacuation order. He filled up gas tanks Sunday night in case he has to run his generator. “Starting to get a little sense of anxiety, like, OK, am I ready for it?†he said. “Realizing we ain’t really ready for a storm. So we’re just all thinking about what we gotta do to get in place to get ready for it.†Residents of St. Charles Parish and parts of Jefferson Parish and Plaquemines Parish in Louisiana had been ordered to clear out as well. Some 9,000 residents in Jefferson Parish, Louisiana, were ordered to evacuate Monday morning, along with the towns of Jean Lafitte, Crown Point and Barataria.

“We’re worried about tidal surge,†Jean Lafitte Mayor Tim Kerner said.

Airports across the region also made plans to shut down as the storm passed. New Orleans will shut its international airport after its last flight Monday night, spokesman Ryan Berni said, while smaller airports in Mississippi, Alabama and Florida also announced closures starting Tuesday. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal called on residents in coastal parishes prone to flooding to voluntarily evacuate. Even pro football player Courtney Roby of the New Orleans Saints was a little nervous. “Kinda a scary feeling of uncertainty,†he said via Twitter.

Mississippi officials dispatched 1,500 National Guard troops to the state’s three southern counties to help with emergency operations, as well as 45 state troopers to ease traffic flow. The state has distributed 10,000 sandbags to residents ahead of the storm. “In short, we have done everything in our power to be prepared for the storm,†Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant said. In the coastal Mississippi city of Pass Christian, people were moving their boats to higher ground and preparing their homes. “Lookin’ like we’re gonna be ground zero again,†said Daryl Vaught, as he prepared to place sandbags in front of his doors and garage. “It seems like Katrina just happened yesterday,†Vaught told CNN affiliate WDSU. “Hopefully we’ll dodge a bullet here this time. I didn’t last time.â€

It appeared Monday that the storm’s ferocity would mostly bypass Florida’s west coast and the Republican National Convention in Tampa, where the schedule was pushed back a day by organizers over concerns about the storm. The storm passed well west of the city, but flood advisories remained posted around the area Monday evening. CNN’s Mariano Castillo, Matt Smith, Josh Levs, Dave Alsup, Chelsea J. Carter, Tom Cohen, Martin Savidge, Gary Tuchman and Jim Spellman, and journalist Jean Junior Osman contributed to this report.

http://kdvr.com/2012...ations-ordered/

[tinybill]

https://www.tropical...namic/main.html

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/storm-chasers/live-tracker/live-tracker.html

should make things interesting now saying it a cat 1

Edited August 28, 2012 by tinybill

[Coast]

He's a big lad!!!!!