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  • Location: High Wycombe
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Cold.
  • Location: High Wycombe

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    These are the best photos I could manage on my phone.  The second one is of the spiders' underside.

     

    I've removed around a dozen of these spiders, most of which were found lounging in south-west facing velux windows.

     

    I've also removed a female widow which is appx 15-20% bigger with a small abdomen but with the same markings.

     

    No photo but here is a stock photo of what I think is the female of species (<- insert pun here)

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    Aside from the spectacular tabloid headlines, there was a mention of the recent summer being partly responsible for this spiders spread northwards.

     

     

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    These are the best photos I could manage on my phone.  The second one is of the spiders' underside.

     

    I've removed around a dozen of these spiders, most of which were found lounging in south-west facing velux windows.

     

    I've also removed a female widow which is appx 15-20% bigger with a small abdomen but with the same markings.

     

    No photo but here is a stock photo of what I think is the female of species (<- insert pun here)

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    Aside from the spectacular tabloid headlines, there was a mention of the recent summer being partly responsible for this spiders spread northwards.

     

    Certainly looks like one to me. Not seen any here thankfully, just house spiders. Were they in the house?

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  • Location: High Wycombe
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Cold.
  • Location: High Wycombe

    I'm in the country so spiders galore but this one does not look like your regular house arachnid. So much for this spider not moving out of the home counties yet....?!

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  • Location: Brecon Beacons, South Wales
  • Location: Brecon Beacons, South Wales

    That does indeed look like a false widow spider. Not sure why the press are claiming that they've not moved out of the home counties; there have been sightings in Scotland - confirmed by the Natural History Museum - since as long ago as 2006.

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  • Location: Dulwich Hill, Sydney, Australia
  • Weather Preferences: Hot and dry or cold and snowy, but please not mild and rainy!
  • Location: Dulwich Hill, Sydney, Australia

    Ha I didn't actually realise there were venomous spiders in the UK.

     

    Sorry but coming from Aus they look cuddly compared to these guys who we used to have to look out for.

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  • Location: High Wycombe
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Cold.
  • Location: High Wycombe

    Could be this spider Amaurobius similis  though. Just read they often get confused as they look similar a(altough different genous) so without capturing one and showing it to an expert, I can't be 100%. 

     

    There's also two smaller spiders that belong to the same group as the false widow Steatoda nobilis

     

    Steatoda bipunctata

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    Steatoda grossa

    http://wiki.britishspiders.org.uk/index.php5?title=False_Widow_Spiders

     

    But I'm sure it isn't these two.

     

    Just going to have to keep hoovering them up to be safe lol.

     

     

     

    Ha I didn't actually realise there were venomous spiders in the UK.

     

    Sorry but coming from Aus they look cuddly compared to these guys who we used to have to look out for.

     

     

     

    Yea, prob why I'd never live there lol.... Anything and everything that can kill you lives in Oz.

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  • Location: Stockport
  • Location: Stockport

    Ha I didn't actually realise there were venomous spiders in the UK.

     

    Sorry but coming from Aus they look cuddly compared to these guys who we used to have to look out for.

     

    Nearly all UK wildlife looks cuddly in comparison to what you get in Aus...Our most dangerous creature is probably the mighty badger.

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  • Location: Cheddar Valley, 20mtrs asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and lots of it or warm and sunny, no mediocre dross
  • Location: Cheddar Valley, 20mtrs asl

    Please be really careful if you see one of these nasty things, the horror stories in the press aren't exaggerations. A colleague got bitten by one a month ago, she ended up in hospital, her leg not only swelled to twice the normal size but looked like she'd tipped a kettle of boiling water down it too, absolutely covered with enormous blisters. A month later, and although now not swollen or painful, the legs is still a scabby mess which the nurse is having to dress daily.

     

    Give them a wide berth!

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    Ha I didn't actually realise there were venomous spiders in the UK.

     

    Sorry but coming from Aus they look cuddly compared to these guys who we used to have to look out for.

     

    I believe all spiders are venomous, just some more than others. A few other spiders in the UK can give a nasty bite too such as the house spider and water spider. I remember reading that the water spider is the most venomous but this false widow may beat it looking at the reports.

    Things waiting to kill you everywhere down under, eeek.

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  • Location: Evesham, Worcs, Albion
  • Location: Evesham, Worcs, Albion

    Nearly all UK wildlife looks cuddly in comparison to what you get in Aus...Our most dangerous creature is probably the mighty badger.

    Our most dangerous creature is the deadly Highland midge! :DAnyway, the picture does look like a false widow, nothing like any of the many spiders I share my house with (many of which this time of year are a lot bigger and hairier!)Watch out though if it spins a web by the front door, you may not get any post .....

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2454080/Postman-refuses-deliver-letter-massive-spider-web-blocking-path-door--arachnid-bigger-10p-piece.html

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  • Location: High Wycombe
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and Cold.
  • Location: High Wycombe

    The front legs look too long for a garden spider and the skull pattern on the abdomen looks more like a false widow to me.

     

     

    They do look very similar as I mentioned above, and that's what's probably the biggest concern. If folks do come across a False Widow and mistake it for a garden spider.

     

    Best course of action if you either in the house is just to hoover them up.  I'm still on the fence when it comes the ones I photographed in the house, they look so darn similar, you'd need to be an expert to ID them.  

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2452231/Two-treated-hospital-bitten-poisonous-false-widow-spiders.html

     

    I would give them a wide berth.

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  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
  • Weather Preferences: Hot & Sunny, Cold & Snowy
  • Location: Mytholmroyd, West Yorks.......
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  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet
  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet

    I believe all spiders are venomous, just some more than others. A few other spiders in the UK can give a nasty bite too such as the house spider and water spider. I remember reading that the water spider is the most venomous but this false widow may beat it looking at the reports.

    Things waiting to kill you everywhere down under, eeek.

     

    I think somebody told me the same but that most in the UK have too weak a fangs to bite a human.

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  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet
  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet

    Nearly all UK wildlife looks cuddly in comparison to what you get in Aus...Our most dangerous creature is probably the mighty badger.

     

    The UK has plenty of predators, they just rule the air.

     

    The numbers of foxes, badgers, mink, grey squirrels, crows, magpies, ravens, buzzards, sparrowhawks and herons are on the up, and not forgetting in excess of nine million domestic cats.

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

    Those spiders are spreading seen in shrewsbury....

    The UK has plenty of predators, they just rule the air.

     

    The numbers of foxes, badgers, mink, grey squirrels, crows, magpies, ravens, buzzards, sparrowhawks and herons are on the up, and not forgetting in excess of nine million domestic cats.

    Rarely see any herons,suppose the pool near us has just turned into a marsh....

    I like cats they catch a few rabbits but not those critter grey squirrels unfortunately,saw 3 in one tree today.

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