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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne
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Early data shows a Weaker Polar Vortex could develop for Winter 2024/2025

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Early data shows that the Polar Vortex is likely to be weaker than normal in the Winter of 2024/2025. A weaker Polar Vortex usually means a weaker jet stream, which increases the chance of a more dynamic (colder/snowy) Winter pattern over the United States, Canada, and/or Europe.

We can already see how some of the large-scale global factors are developing. Knowing how they change seasonally and how they shape our weather, based on past data, can give us important insight into the future.

Based on the overall state of the major global factors, we can see how they are projected to evolve and what this means for the overall large-scale winter circulation. We will look at each of these factors, but first, we will quickly look at why the Polar Vortex is so important in this story.

https://www.severe-weather.eu/long-range-2/early-data-weak-polar-vortex-usa-winter-2024-2025-fa/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3iFaAS_I_nxwcL0GBfLK4yzhLnRYbQh2dtNp3xUHdwAXtnqwNaprabIIs_aem_JkAFLkWRIvxIx980gCbeLg

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  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms,
  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
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Lets learn No. 2: Stratospheric Polar Vortex & Why It's Important

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The stratospheric polar vortex (sPV) forms during the autumn as the Arctic cools increasing the thermal gradient between the Arctic and the equator. Winds in the stratosphere move in a westerly direction and can be a key driver of weather patterns. 

A strong sPV can help to increase the strength of the jet stream lower down in the troposphere leading to milder, stormier weather, conversely, a weaker polar vortex can lead to a more sluggish jet stream allowing for blocked/colder patterns to develop. 

Strong sPV's can override tropospheric patterns and can really drive the weather across the northern hemisphere.

October & November are often key developmental months for the sPV and many meteorologists/weather enthusiasts watch as this could give early signs of what type of winter we're going to have.

Occasionally, something known as a "Sudden Stratospheric Warming" (SSW) can take place, when this occurs temperatures in the stratosphere can rise by 60-70C in the space of just a few days, this can cause a weakening of the sPV and even cause the westerly winds to reverse to easterly temporarily. 

When this happens, those easterly winds can propagate downwards into the troposphere weakening the usual westerly winds leading to periods of blocking in the mid/high latitudes. The BFTE in 2018 was a result of an SSW although this was one of the most extreme events on record, around 70% of SSW's that result in a full reversal (westerlies reversing to easterlies) produce cold weather outbreaks into the mid latitudes during winter.

SSW's occur on average once every 2 years and can be one of the most dramatic weather events on earth, predicting when these will happen though is quite difficult with lead times generally in the 1-2 week range.

Cold/snow lovers want to see a weaker vortex in general during winter as this increases the chance of blocked weather patterns being able to develop.

This is a very basic overview of the stratospheric polar vortex and why it's talked about so much during the autumn/winter season.

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  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
  • Weather Preferences: Hot, cold!
  • Location: Wantage, Oxon
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On 16/10/2024 at 21:22, Met4Cast said:

The AAM is a very complicated topic & an area of science that is relatively new in terms of research and understanding. I'll try my best to explain the broader outline as simply as I can, but please feel free to ask questions!

First, thank you @Met4Cast for taking the time to post these, they are really helpful.  

I have a question about AAM.  I understand that positive AAM means a more meridional/wavy jet and negative AAM means a more zonal pattern.  But what I have not understood is how it is known or predicted exactly where (in terms of longitude) the ridges and troughs will occur in our vicinity, particularly for the more meridional setups.  

I have a vague notion that where things are in the Pacific is important, and also that ‘seasonal wavelength changes’ are a thing, but there seems to be a certain amount of witchcraft in this aspect that I have never got my head around.  A scientific explanation on this would be something that I, for one, would find most helpful.

Mike

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  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms,
  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
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4 hours ago, Mike Poole said:

I have a question about AAM.  I understand that positive AAM means a more meridional/wavy jet and negative AAM means a more zonal pattern.  But what I have not understood is how it is known or predicted exactly where (in terms of longitude) the ridges and troughs will occur in our vicinity, particularly for the more meridional setups.  

Yeah, that's something I'm yet to fully get my head around too if I'm honest!

From my understanding it depends "where" in the jet the +ve anomalies are being injected, i.e where are the strongest jet streaks in the Pacific and where in the cycle is the GWO. I believe it's similar to how the MJO influences things, i.e a nudge of the jet stream over the west Pacific is going to lead to a different downstream pattern compared with a nudge further east in the Pacific, the same is true for the positive AAM anomalies, which is why you need to factor in the entire budget.

Equatorward propagating AAM anomalies feed into sub-tropical highs inflating them, i.e the Azores, Poleward propagating anomalies weaken sub-tropical highs and amplify highs into the higher latitudes, figuring out "where" though is the tricky part.

Rossby wave propagation is a big part of this but like I said, very much still a part I'm trying to figure out/learn with very little online information!

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  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms,
  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
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Really nice example recently of propagating AAM/GSDM processes & their impacts on northern hemispheric patterns & the AO

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If only it were this clear cut during the winter months! Going forward the sPV will become far more relevant & will need to be factored in and accounted for when producing longer-range analysis. 

Still too early to know what the state of play will be regarding that. 

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