Northwest Weather Discussion

[Scuba steve]

1 hour ago, damianslaw said:

Yes many a time look west and its green, look east and its white, I've said before there are a numerous 'invisible' lines over Cumbria, snow much more likely further east you go, and within the central Lake District, its a complex geography, no other part of England like it and the forecasters never get it right when it comes to snow in Cumbria. Dunmail Raise, Kirkstone Pass and Shap summit are good places to see differences between north and south Cumbria. Helvellyn a great spot to view the west-east divide. Travel along the M6/A590/A591 is a good experience to view the changes between north and south of the county, A66 from Workington to Stainmore summit for west-east difference.

 

One of the best viewpoints for this I’ve found  is kirkstone pass look East it’s as  white as far as the eye can see  to the west strange grey green that you get when theres zero snow 

[Iceaxecrampon]

54 minutes ago, damianslaw said:

Yes many a time look west and its green, look east and its white, I've said before there are a numerous 'invisible' lines over Cumbria, snow much more likely further east you go, and within the central Lake District, its a complex geography, no other part of England like it and the forecasters never get it right when it comes to snow in Cumbria. Dunmail Raise, Kirkstone Pass and Shap summit are good places to see differences between north and south Cumbria. Helvellyn a great spot to view the west-east divide. Travel along the M6/A590/A591 is a good experience to view the changes between north and south of the county, A66 from Workington to Stainmore summit for west-east difference.

 

Cumbria has its own microclimate as you residents may well know. 

Years back (1991 possibly) we drove up from Lancashire to Keswick for a last minute end of season winter route up Blencathra  (1 hour fast drive in a salt encrusted XR2 - a record for us) ridges were bare nothing in condition at all. 

Plan B drive back South to Langdale. The pikes. Up to our knees in the stuff. Good 8 miler brilliant afternoon. Nearly benighted in a blizzard. 
Here’s Pike of Stickle from that day.
 

Darkness falling. 
 

[severe snowstorm]

A glorious sunny day here. The temperature struggled up to 4C around 20 minutes ago. Sheltered areas have retained a covering of frost since this morning. If skies remain clear, it's going to be a really hard frost tonight.

[trickydicky]

1 hour ago, damianslaw said:

Yes many a time look west and its green, look east and its white, I've said before there are a numerous 'invisible' lines over Cumbria, snow much more likely further east you go, and within the central Lake District, its a complex geography, no other part of England like it and the forecasters never get it right when it comes to snow in Cumbria. Dunmail Raise, Kirkstone Pass and Shap summit are good places to see differences between north and south Cumbria. Helvellyn a great spot to view the west-east divide. Travel along the M6/A590/A591 is a good experience to view the changes between north and south of the county, A66 from Workington to Stainmore summit for west-east difference.

 

Blake Fell on the western edge of the fells is a great vantage point. Many a time I’ve stood at the top of there and looked down on the completely green coastal strip from Egremont up to Silloth. Turn round and you’ve got snow plastered fells behind you over to Helvellyn. On a clear day, like today I’d imagine, you can see a surprisingly long way north into Scotland and can probably see a good portion of the southern uplands. 

Edited December 7, 2022 by trickydicky
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[Thunder Snow]

A hard sharp frost last night, that is still sticking now. It's bloody freezing.

[russwirral]

32 minutes ago, Iceaxecrampon said:

Cumbria has its own microclimate as you residents may well know. 

Years back (1991 possibly) we drove up from Lancashire to Keswick for a last minute end of season winter route up Blencathra  (1 hour fast drive in a salt encrusted XR2 - a record for us) ridges were bare nothing in condition at all. 

Plan B drive back South to Langdale. The pikes. Up to our knees in the stuff. Good 8 miler brilliant afternoon. Nearly benighted in a blizzard. 
Here’s Pike of Stickle from that day.
 

Darkness falling. 
 

Is that Bowfell in the background?

[Dan B]

A high so far of 2.5ºC here; just been out to pick up the kitten after he's had 'the snip'...

 

Gardens still frozen solid here and plenty of ice on the roads where there's been no sunshine!

 

Roads haven't been salted at all around here either; unusual or are they keeping costs down?!

 

It'll freeze harder tonight I reckon!

[Thunder Snow]

2 minutes ago, Dan B said:

A high so far of 2.5ºC here; just been out to pick up the kitten after he's had 'the snip'...

 

Gardens still frozen solid here and plenty of ice on the roads where there's been no sunshine!

 

Roads haven't been salted at all around here either; unusual or are they keeping costs down?!

 

It'll freeze harder tonight I reckon!

A customer told me in the shop yesterday highway staff are striking not sure how true that is.

[Backtrack]

Milder than I thought really. Temp fluctuating between 4C and 6C. Frost hanging on in some shaded spots. Expecting a cold one tonight. 

[russwirral]

2 minutes ago, Thunder Snow said:

A customer told me in the shop yesterday highway staff are striking not sure how true that is.

Strike calendar here

[SP1986]

High today was 6.4C, no frost to melt and in the clear sunny, calm conditions it felt actually very pleasant.

The forecast is calling for at least a build up of cloud here tonight so temperatures may not fall too far, plus there is a slight seaward breeze.

I wonder if there will be any showers later maybe.

It's probably a little early in this cold spell for any frost/ice/snow interest on the coast but its definitely coming!

Edited December 7, 2022 by SP1986

[toggerob]

2.8'c in Buxton this afternoon, now the sun is beginning to set the temps will drop like a rock overnight with the freeze/thaw cycle becoming more of an annoyance over the next few days as daytime temps sink even lower. On the plus side if skies remain clear it'll be good viewing for the Moon/Mars Occultation early tomorrow morning.

[SnowThunder]

30 minutes ago, SP1986 said:

It's probably a little early in this cold spell for any frost/ice/snow interest on the coast but its definitely coming!

Plenty frost here, was still a light frost in the shade at midday, can certainly feel the cold now though although it's quite nice in Sun, now we wait for the streamers that probably won't show up

[dodge]

Really liking the Meto updates on YouTube - latest 10 day trend seems to suggest as a region we'll more than likely hold onto the colder air next week with north easterly winds...less chance of disruptive snowfall from the tropical low, but that might not even scrape southern UK at this rate.  No sign of a breakdown yet.

Edited December 7, 2022 by dodge

[raul_sbd]

-0.9c in Glossop atm... min this morning was -3.2c.. pure filth!

[Day 10]

55 minutes ago, SP1986 said:

High today was 6.4C, no frost to melt and in the clear sunny, calm conditions it felt actually very pleasant.

The forecast is calling for at least a build up of cloud here tonight so temperatures may not fall too far, plus there is a slight seaward breeze.

I wonder if there will be any showers later maybe.

It's probably a little early in this cold spell for any frost/ice/snow interest on the coast but its definitely coming!

That's mad, so we have a micro climate within a micro climate, we had a frost here and it only got up to 4c.

[A Face like Thunder]

1 hour ago, russwirral said:

Strike calendar here

Border staff now joining the strike action calendar from 23rd to 31st December 

[Cheshire Freeze]

8 minutes ago, A Face like Thunder said:

Border staff now joining the strike action calendar from 23rd to 31st December 

Yeah why wouldn’t anyone want Christmas-new year week off.

[Dan B]

-1ºC here now and dropping... Car cover back on the BMW

[Day 10]

This has popped up for Sat.

Potential before that too.

[severe snowstorm]

Temperature now dropping nicely as the sun sets, 1.5C. Metoffice going for a low of -7C in the region overnight. 

[Thunder Snow]

1 minute ago, Day 10 said:

This has popped up for Sat.

Potential before that too.

Anything popping up for my neck of the woods

[Scuba steve]

Ice reforming in camper van it only thawed off at 2 pm  looking for another bitter cold night 

1 minute ago, Thunder Snow said:

Anything popping up for my neck of the woods

I’m under the purple

[Geordiesnow]

1 minute ago, Day 10 said:

This has popped up for Sat.

Potential before that too.

Has the classic of too marginal for low ground and especially near the coast but good at any real height, if only the uppers were that touch colder! 

Either way looks increasingly likely any flow from the sea is going to be brief as an light easterly should come into play. 

As for tonight, north Cumbria may have a small chance of seeing a dusting and maybe a light covering locally, just depends how that front behaves. It may prevent much of a frost though because of the increased cloud cover. 

[russwirral]

7 minutes ago, Day 10 said:

This has popped up for Sat.

Potential before that too.

That says to me: Hail bonded to my window wipers, and a crust to my car window that a hammer and chizzle wouldnt shift