General summer chat

[B87]

Finally, after 12 months of above average rainfall and mostly cloudy months, the nightmare is over! June was actually drier and sunnier than average.

Temp: -0.2c
Rainfall: 26%
Sunshine: 112%

[Don]

34 minutes ago, damianslaw said:

Reading the text it states chances of hot weather simply because of background warming. Little actual forecasting of synoptics.. other than slight chance of higher than average pressure.

The background warming might be the overriding factor now, a bit like what happened last winter when predicted cold synoptics failed to materialise, apart from that cold but largely dry week in January?

[Macc2023]

 B87 Can you let us know what website you got that information please so i can have a look at where i live please.

[Alderc 2.0]

16 hours ago, Summerlover2006 said:

 

Question for everybody as we go through yet another spell of below average temperatures do you think we might be set for are first below average summer in years personally I would say no as it is very easy for a summer to be warmer then average nowadays like 2020 despite notable bad periods was warmer then average and there is still a lot of time to recover and the modals are showing a warm up next week to average but it’s still something to think about and would be very interesting in what was suppose to be the warmest year on record.

 

July looks like being a replica of the start of June and with a good 8-10days of below average weather, with some areas being really very cold for the time of year so the rest of July will have to work hard to get back to average meaning we need need only a average August to confirm on a marginally colder summer than average. 

[Daniel*]

At least here in Norway the overcast weather also carries a charm.  

[al78]

 Daniel*  That is exactly like it was when I was trekking across Jotunheimen last July and I experienced better weather than back home in the SE. It was noticable how even during overcast or showery days, the cloud base was quite high so only the higher mountain summits (say > 1900m) were in the cloud. In the UK when it is overcast across a hilly area the clag often comes crashing down to around 300m blocking out the majority of the scenery. Here is an example from Jotunheimen and the Lake District in July 2023.

[B87]

 Macc2023 A mix of Meteociel/Ogimet and the Met Office historic data page.

[damianslaw]

 al78 In SW airstreams its valley level cloud here. 

[weatherguru14]

I could have told you this summer was going to a be poor one. simply by the strength of the wind.. You'd expect the wind to be gentle by now., Its just blowing Nw/west to east. Theres zero chance of pressure building to our south.. 

Until the winds fall light we are not gonna get any prolonged nice spell of weather. Then again knowing our luck. the winds will drop and there'll be a large low stuck over the top of the UK and it will go nowhere. 

[Downburst]

 ANYWEATHER I do get the intended point though, for me the autumn’s over the last 25 years are noticeably milder and in some ways extend in temperature feeling well into December quite often. Last winter things continued to grow on the hedges I’ve been cutting for 35 years twice a year right  through the winter unabated. That’s beech hedges, deciduous trees growing like crazy. I know not very scientific and by measurement it’s about a 10% increase in climate temperature, but if feels more to me.

[damianslaw]

Summer thought it was Autumn, an equally poor start to July as last year, but unlike last year it has come on the back of a poor June, away from the SE..Second half of summer will have a lot of ground to make up, no appreciable warm or drying out spell on the horizon.  

[Lincs Observation]

 Downburst I get a good measure also on cutting privet hedges, some dry years I might only cut twice from late May to September or wet warm years five time in the same period.

[Sprites]

 al78 Looks like Niflheim 

[al78]

 Sprites  It was taken coming down Uradalen into Visdalen, heading for Spiterstulen.

[Sprites]

 al78 https://vikingr.org/norse-cosmology/niflheim

[Wold Topper]

 weatherguru14 did we have the wrong kind of seaweed in spring?

[weatherguru14]

 Wold Topper No we had a wet spring.. from my recollection.. The best summers follow a cold  dry spring..in most cases anyway. Just been so unsettled this year. the lack of constant highs around these shores have led to a poor summer thus far. 

[Wold Topper]

 weatherguru14 hmmm lets see,

Edited July 3, 2024 by Wold Topper

[weatherguru14]

wow just back from Asda. that "coolness"  of that wind is ridiculous. sorry but this is a joke for July the 4th. 

[I remember Atlantic 252]

Wind will be warmer in 6 months, when it's coming from the SW

[MP-R]

Lovely and sunny here but quite a bracing wind.

July 04th last year was cold too and by the 07th it was hot and sunny. Sadly didn’t last but just shows how quickly it can change. Hopefully something like that in the first half of this month!

[Freeze]

It's not too bad down here, blue skies and 18c currently.

Edited July 4, 2024 by Freeze

[Arctic Hare]

Seems to be a fairly common theme across a lot of the country. 17-18 °C and sunny spells here, but with that wind really taking the edge off. In calm conditions, given the strength of the sun in July, this would probably be fine for sitting out in the (home or beer) garden. Right now it isn't. Fine for going for walks, though, and it's great not to have to take an umbrella/raincoat. Tomorrow will be much more irritating in that regard, even if the temperature on the display is slightly higher.

No idea how the current period compares in CET terms, but then for most people in everyday life (not counting farmers etc) it simply doesn't matter what night mins are most of the time. Hence I suspect some of the disbelief at "warmest X ever" tweets from the MetO, though obviously some of the replies there are from the usual loons and fruitcakes who believe we're being controlled by spiders from Mars...

 

[al78]

 Arctic Hare  If a summer month is cloudy and wet, that usually translates into below average temperatures as milder overnight mins cannot compensate for suppressed daytime temperatures like they can at the times of year when air-mass type can override sunshine quantity when it comes to temperature variation.

[weatherguru14]

Quite a nice day here.. Mid September feel to it, so can't complain. Least said about yesterday the better.