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    Hurricane Ophelia

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    Posted · Edited by OPHELIA

    5 minutes ago, MattTarrant said:

    Please stop. This forum is predominantly good with discussion, there will always disagreement but your taking it to a new level. Your essentially saying those whom do research in these fields (Likely have PhD's) are completely wrong and in denial? 

    I'm asking all to do research.....with a please. no matter of education.

    Hurricane Ophelia

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    5 minutes ago, Nick F said:

    By the time Ophelia reaches Ireland waters it will be extratropical meaning that it derives most of its energy from horizontal temperature contrasts of Polar and Tropical air masses along baroclinic zones i.e. Cold/warm fronts and occluded fronts. The large scale ascent of air at the surface created by divergence aloft by left exits and right entrances of jet streaks which the depression moves into helping to deepen the low if they phase favourably. 

    Whereas true hurricanes derive energy from warm sea temperatures above 26C, certainly the seas around Ireland won't be the main source of energy

    Most likely over the western side of County Kerry. 

    Ok please do stop, you guys keep forgetting the climate is changing, you have to accept this.....wow.

    Hurricane Ophelia

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    1 minute ago, SnowBear said:

    It won't be "feeding" from the sea by the time it reaches Ireland, to continue being a "Hurricane" and drawing energy from the sea it has to be over 26°c+ water. The driving forces will be the weather systems around it, and if they drive it inland then inland it will go. Even in the tropics they are sensitive to the air masses around them, not the sea.

    I didn't say it would be a hurricane, but in nature it will stay out at seas to live(no I'm not saying this is a living organism), I already know weather systems can change it, but you seem to be treating it as a tropical storm in your comment, I don't believe it has to be over 26c water, it just needs to be over water no matter the temperature because that is how most storms like this form and live may it be hot or cold, and let me warp your mind even more...please do remember we are in a severe climate change so you and I both don't know what the hell we are talking about....the fact is...can you accept this ;).

    Hurricane Ophelia

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    5 minutes ago, Ross Andrew Hemphill said:

    Eastward shift on the GFS takes Ophelia into SW Ireland towards the far West of NI, and very close to mainland Western Scotland. Winds look a bit stronger too?? 

    Can I take this moment to say and not contradicting your post but storms like this do intend to stay out in the ocean because that is what they feed from, it's as they say for every action there is a reaction :). This could in turn keep some form of strength for a little while, but I'm not counting on it. 

    Hurricane Ophelia

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    3 minutes ago, karlos1983 said:

    That’s some seriously high inshore waters. I do hope people don’t think a walk to the beach is a good idea 

    Without rain this could actually flood some Dublin areas such as Clontarf, it has happened before. Thank you. I have an old folk friend who lives in that area so the more I know the better :).

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    Hurricane Ophelia

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    6 minutes ago, karlos1983 said:

    I am well aware it’s (you’re) not a hurricane when Ireland or the UK does or does not take a hit, 1 inch isn’t really an issue, but generally with hurricanes storm surge is worse near the centre and with the onshore prevailing wind. 10 feet of surge is life threatening, 1 inch couldn’t penetrate Jordon nevermind the Irish coastline 

     

    I know that's why I said you and I know, I can tell you know what you're talking about :). I like to explain further more in my posts to help others.

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    Hurricane Ophelia

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    2 minutes ago, karlos1983 said:

    Oh I agree, flooding could well be an issue, for coastal communities, overlapping, especially if the storm centre makes a landfall at a vulnerable location, as that’s where the surge will be at its highest. Interesting weekend ahead watching the track 

    No no it doesn't have to make landfall the surge is actually spread out and at sea heading to land, it's not a hurricane when it hits us. the surge can in fact go all around Ireland from 1 inch to meters ;).

    Hurricane Ophelia

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    13 minutes ago, karlos1983 said:

    I’m struggling to follow your posts, what’s a real post and what’s tongue in cheek... no offence meant,  but I Is fick! 

    I've been talking about swells most of the day, but I don't see any information confirming any informative conformation about swells, we all know swells come with these type of storms, but it seems that nobody seems to acknowledge that these storms produce swells ....but I know and you know they can kick up a swell so my worry is with a tide (not a spring tide) could this cause any form of flooding? Now I know the ground is not wet enough to cause an major floods but with a swell it can change the effects of rivers, as we know Ireland has high mountains in the west so what if...just IF the rains could be heavy enough and stalled. 

    Hurricane Ophelia

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    1 minute ago, karlos1983 said:

    I was wondering why surge hasn’t been mentioned really with this storm, when usually with hurricanes ex/post etc usually the biggest issue is surge, guessing because the coasts in question aren’t really at risk due to structure of coastline? I.e. cliff faces, unpopulated ?

    I've being saying it all night...Co.Cork is my worry.

    Hurricane Ophelia

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    11 minutes ago, Paul said:

    Can we keep to the topic of Ophelia please, it's all getting a bit off topic in here at times. 

    Those wanting to chat about non-weather related stuff, the lounge is a good option :)

    https://www.netweather.tv/forum/forum/17-the-lounge/

    Ok, sorry :(, but cat 3 for sunday is what I am trying to produce, I just wanted to share that, I am unpredictable right now (I like to make you guys work), the seas are rather higher in temperature than usual, so I'm a little excited forgive me. I have begun to interact with winds from the north. This is a little too early for me but it does give me the advantage to transform more early. 

     

    I'm not joking here when I give information to what I know. I just wish to share my information in a different view for others to understand...in a little crazy way.

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    Hurricane Ophelia

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    Just now, Mokidugway said:

    Lol, very wet ,but TBH it was no worse than the uk though some beautiful barely twist supercells on way to the keys .

    I actually like cloud structures,I take a lot of photos of thunderstorms, it can be annoying when shear winds rip apart a storm -_-. I would like to see this with my visit to Ireland but sorry guys the right conditions have not been set, it is disappointing but hey at least for now we have the swell and winds holding up....for now. 

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    Hurricane Ophelia

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    3 minutes ago, The Eagle said:

    Nearly time for the max red warnings for the south, south west and west assuming things stay on track.

     

    It's not just the west, the winds will spread out, the Irish sea will see some action if.....IF...all goes to plan :D...I know people who surf in this weather...wait why do I know all the crazy ones?? Humm I better look into that.

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