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Thanks GW, I'm sure they don't either I just find it soooooooooo tiresome that any sceptic is told repeatedly to go read, look it up, learn stuff and I've spent days and days doing just that. I've learnt an incredible amount about how the world and climate all interact and it really, genuinely isn't anywhere near as simple as add Co2 and we get warmer. Yet anytime I raise my head above the parapet and throw something different into the conversation I'm deemed as ignorant, ignoring the science, blah blah blah. At the very least, I'm trying to look at the broader picture which is more than can be said for many on here. I am however rapidly reaching the point where there seems little or no purpose to all this, more hassle than it's worth, more often than not. It's beginning to look less like two sides of a debate and more and more like two gangs either side of a playground; not my idea of a good time.

I am not a prolific poster on here,but I read all the comments on a regular basis & also on TWO. I have to agree with Jethro's observations. The same comments can be made regarding the posts on TWO also. I find it very difficult to understand why the thoughts of pro AGW supporters are considered sacrosanct , and any alternative idea or questioning as uninformed. There obviously is global warming ,and with 60 plus years of experiencing it I can also confirm that there have been periods of cooling.I certainly do not dismiss AGW out of hand,but I dont think this has been proved conclusively nor properly quantified.Surely alternative thoughts to the " accepted"? theory should be considered and not dimissed out of hand, as is happening too often.

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welcome to Net Wx Ollie but could we have your town in your avatar please, then we all know where any weather reports are coming from?

many tks

Sorry everybody,I'm from doncaster.Will add to avatar asap. :lol:

[Sceptic Links Discussion]

Sorry to go off at a bit of a tangent, but I'd like to post a link to Dr Steven Hayward's 50-minute documentary "An Inconvenient Truth, or Convenient Fiction?".

I've just finished watching part 1 (it's viewable online, though I would recommend a Broadband connection!) and I'm waiting for Part 2 to buffer, so here's the link:

http://www.aconvenientfiction.com/

CB

I have just watched both parts & found it very well presented. It is another alternative viewpoint leaving me with more to consider.

[Where do you stand on AGW?]

Thanks,HP,Jethro & John Cox for your kind welcome. I,ll be back once I feel I have something pertinent to add to the discussions and have sorted out how to add links.

[Where do you stand on AGW?]

I have been lurking on this site and others for two to three years now. I assiduously read all posts and links ,both for and against agw. I have finally plucked up courage to add my "pennysworth" for what it is worth. I have just read the posts and have opted for option 2. I particularly noted viking 141's response and would concur with this viewpoint 100%. I believe that I am open minded,but have not yet see any incontrovertible evidence of agw. I obviously accept that there has been warming ,but think a lot is whithin natural cycles.