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Seriously Lauren and Weather ship, energy security is a fundamental concern for any nation state. By localising energy production you secure access to that energy.
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Paul Hudson's BBC weather, blog post on the subject http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2011/10/met-office-finally-wakes-up-to.shtml
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I'm sure there's more recent material but as jethro outlines, the Sun's effect has previously been relegated as it has been perceived as a constant allowing greenhouse gases to take a more prominent role.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7327393.stm
"Scientists have produced further compelling evidence showing that modern-day climate change is not caused by changes in the Sun's activity."
"The 2007 IPCC report halved the maximum likely influence of solar forcing on warming over the past 250 years from 40% to 20%."
"Similarly, there is no trend in direct measurements of the Sun's ultraviolet output and in cosmic rays. So for the period for which we have direct, reliable records, the Earth has warmed dramatically even though there has been no corresponding rise in any kind of solar activity."
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/19990408/
"According to Shindell, the new study also confirms that changing levels of energy from the sun are not a major cause of global warming."
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"Ultraviolet light shone on cold winter conundrum"
http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-15199065
It would seem the Sun is now, at least partially recognised, as having an effect on climate.
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What were the the upper / lower atmospheric temperatures like in the area?
The CBC article GW linked to implies it probably is:
http://www.cbc.ca/ca...l#ixzz1AzmdjP9t
That refraction of light at the border between cold and warm air is what's allowing people to see farther than normal, Davidson said.
"Refraction makes light travel," he said.
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Life evolved in CO2 concentrations that were lower than 300 ppm. We are at 390ppm now and on course for disaster.
Seriously? Even if you were only looking at the human evolutionary period, that statement would still be factually incorrect.
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Our ability to 'discover' more and more reasons to deny our manifest culpability would make an ostrich blush
This kind of comment borders on belief rather than informed scientific opinion.
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It will be a step up on the Kardashev scale for humanity.
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thats the hayes line... yep i know its a bit close!!
and its still coming down steady.. :lol:
Hayes line is closed at Hayes, the 7:06am train is still there and couldn't get up the slight gradient from Hayes to West Wickham. Roads are gridlock around any gradients as well.
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Think on it as a positive step Moomin. Tim Berners-Lee invented the concepts of the World Wide Web to "facilitate sharing and updating information among researchers" this idea is reaching the next level of maturity, the scientific community will be better for it.
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Firstly, leading climate scientist?
Secondly, it would be apprciated if Rajendra Pachauri actually argued the salient points of the report rather than attempting to dismiss it since it doesn't fit his point of view.
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The gap on that poll has widened a bit further with 5448 counted in and 6882 counted out at the time of typing this.
It's now:
768 counted in so far
5240 counted out so far
The variation in poll numbers has been interesting. Perhaps they've been spammed by invalid submissions, or perhaps had trouble with the code.
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Yet when we watch the Narwhals beaching,Walrus's starving Polar Bears drowning in deep ocean we choose to deny it's occurring.
I'd really like to see your evidence for Polar Bear drownings being on the increase?
As far as i knew they are very good swimmers and Ian Stirling ("Behavior". Polar Bears. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press 1988) cites them being seen up to 200 miles from land?
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If you look at some of the date able evidence that has presented over the past 20yrs, from the 'ice man' (5,000yrs) in the alps to tree stumps in the Rockies glaciers (8,000yrs), that obviously has not been subjected to such ablation since ice entombment you have to ask "Why now?"
You're willing to ask the question "Why now?" but what about the question "Why then?". Ozti the Iceman had been crossing the alps allegedly as part of a raiding party but had died from wounds in combat and allegedly had an arrowhead removed from him at the scene of death. It must have been cold to preserve the body but not cold enough the outweigh removing the copper arrowhead. Otzi was then, over time, entombed in the ice.
So if you can ascribe meaning to finding his body now what meaning can be ascribed to bronze age man engage in combat in the heights of the Alps 5000 years ago?
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But it still amounts to 'I don't like any of you, so for ten whole minutes I'll get off my butt and write four words on the ballot paper'. To my mind it's not exactly putting the effort in for change.
I think if people don't like our politicians and the job they do they should stand for election themselves or stop criticising.
Actually, purposeful spoiling of a ballot paper does have an effect, perhaps not on the current instance of the vote but if enough votes are spoilt then it should be a way of showing politicians that they are not offering a choice worthy of the vote. Far better than not voting at all and something anyone can do without becoming politically active.
I agree entirely with your second sentence.
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It looks like a sensor on a satellite has failed. It thus has precisely zero to do with AGW, or 'Hansen' or 'Gore' - - but I'm sure some one, somewhere will try to make the association
You just did?
The issue is if that data has been used for research, the media has publicised it or it has be used to affect public policy.
It is good NSIDC have publicly acknowledged a problem, open honesty about data builds trust.
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We cannot predict evolution.
Charles Darwin disagrees with you...
Darwin first saw this astonishing orchid from Madagascar, Angraecum sesquipedale, in 1862. Its foot-long green throat holds nectar—the sweet liquid that draws pollinators—but only at its very tip. "Astounding," Darwin wrote, of this strange adaptation. "What insect could suck it?" He predicted that Madagascar must be home to an insect with an incredibly long feeding tube, or proboscis. Entomologists were dubious: no such insect had ever been found there.Charles Darwin died in 1882, and more than 40 years later, his insight was confirmed. A naturalist in Madagascar discovered the giant hawk moth, which hovers like a hummingbird as its long, whip-like proboscis probes for the distant nectar. The moth's scientific name, Xanthopan morganii praedicta, honors the prediction of the scientist who never saw it, but whose theory told him that it must exist.
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Don't we have that via the back door? With monitoring now able to flag deformities early on in pregnancies terminations are common place. Come the time where sex,eye colour,stature are a thing of choice we will be even further into 'acceptable Eugenics'. (IMHO of course)
I suggest you read up on Charles Davenport and the Cold Spring Harbor Lab. James Watson feared such a similarity and set up the Ethical, Legal and Social Implications Program. There is a vast difference between genetic screening and the sterilisation and euthanasia of those deemed genetically impure. I believe you know the ultimate outcome of the eugenics movement?
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You're bang on right guys, scientists shouldn't tell govt.s what to do eh? Smoking,STD's,traffic speed,lead in petrol who are they to tell us what to do? :lol:
Well actually no, scientists shouldn't tell the government what to do, scientists are not afforded any special treatment under universal suffrage. Scientist can of course provide information to the government for the government to make informed decisions but it is for the government representing the people to make those decisions.
Don't start with lists, scientist are not infallible, the top of my opposing list would start with eugenics.
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I've lost both BBC channels and Channel 5. Channel 4 keeps breaking up. Sadly the only channel that is clear is ITV - which means I am suffering Loose Women :wacko:
Is anyone else having satelite problems due to the weather?
You'll need to clear the satellite dish of snow on it, just cleared mine and got a clear signal back.
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Hayes, Kent, between Bromley and Biggin Hill has 10 inches. Trains are cancelled, i wouldn't bother Charlton.
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Perhaps were not looking at the core of the arguement, when Albert Einstein wrote his paper on mass-energy equivalence, he was not well known, he was not at the top of the field, he didn't have the sort of credentials people are putting so much onus on.
What he did have was good solid science.
Science is not something to be locked away behind credentials, science is something that should be verifiable and repeatable. Given the right environment and methodology i could split an atom, i could sequence my DNA so i should be able to replicate climate models and test for validity given a set of parameters.
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Indeed, people can put what they like in the bin, they just have to face the consequences.
I can't find a link but the Discovery Channel had an episode on a recycling plant in the US that could take mixed waste. Government investment in such technology could have resolved the problem but instead what we got was an inefficient system of separating waste, additional collections, additional staffing and a burden on the public.
Recycling then wouldn't have been such an issue. Was it political ineptitude or was it politically useful? The last part of your sentence certainly makes it seem like a useful tool to achieve public compliance.
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Welcome, but I'm afraid you're not off to a very good start.
It's only a bad start because of Devonian's complete support of AGW...
The Taboo Of Not Subscribing To Anthropological Global Warming
in Climate Change
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I'd be really concerned if deuterium ran out.