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    Winter 2019/20 | Moans, Ramps & Chat

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    The weather in 1919,nowts changed much really.

    October - Very dry, cold and sunny.

     Mean Temperature  7.4°C  

     Monthly Highest 18.5°C  Total Rain  14 mm

     Monthly Lowest -2.0°C Total Sun 121 hrs


    After a warm start to the month, with the temperature rising above 18°C. on the 1st, it became much cooler with more than half the nights during the month experiencing a ground frost. Several air frosts occurred too, especially towards the end of October when days also became cold. On the 28th, the maximum temperature was only 6.4°C. measurable rain fell on 9 days during October, but it was light, although nearly 4mm was recorded on the 24th.

    November - Very cold, dry and rather dull.

     Mean Temperature  4.1°C  

     Monthly Highest 13.9°C  Total Rain 27 mm

     Monthly Lowest -3.4°C Total Sun 45 hrs


    The opening fortnight of the month was mostly dull with winds blowing from a cold northerly point. Light rain and drizzle occurred at times, and even a little sleet. After mid month, it became brighter but still mostly cold. On the 23rd, the temperature rose close to 14°C, but after a sharp frost, the high on the 27th was only 2.2°C. Sleet or snow was observed on 8 days during November, but precipitation was mostly light. However, on the 29th nearly 7mm of rain fell.

    December - Very dull, wet and rather mild.

     Mean Temperature  6.0°C  

     Monthly Highest 12.3°C  Total Rain 95 mm

     Monthly Lowest -4.9°C Total Sun 25 hrs

    This was a very unsettled month with only 7 days without measurable rain. However, much of the rain was light and drizzly. The wettest day was the 1st when over 17mm of rain was measured. Most days were mild but a short cold snap began at the end of the first week, and on the 9th the temperature only reached 2.6°C. There were several overnight frosts, but mild weather soon returned and remained for the rest of December.On the 23rd, the high was above 12°C.

    http://www.london-weather.eu/article.59.html

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    Greenland - What Do We Know, What Is The Long Term Future And Is There Any Evidence Of A Melt Out?

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    On 20/08/2019 at 23:00, Kirkcaldy Weather said:

    "Kulusuk, Greenland (CNN)On one of the hottest days this summer, locals in the tiny village of Kulusuk, Greenland, heard what sounded like an explosion. It turned out to be a soccer field's worth of ice breaking off a glacier more than five miles away.

    Greenland lost 12.5 billion tons of ice to melting on August 2, the largest single-day loss in recorded history and another stark reminder of the climate crisis."

    Full story here https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/08/19/weather/greenland-nasa-climate-battle-intl/index.html

    Recorded history,a tiny tiny blip in time all things considered.The Earth will make it,it always has,probably always will.Chin up.

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    Report Climate change ipcc

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    As the Anchorage Daily News pointed out, official temperatures used to be recorded at Merrill Field airport, which was done from 1943 to 1952. Merrill Field reached the 90 degrees mark once before, but this is “the warmest temperature ever measured in the Anchorage Bowl,” tweeted Alaskan climatologist Brian Brettschneider.

    While a record for Anchorage, this is not a record for the state. In 1915, Fort Yukon in central eastern Alaska reached 100 degrees F (37.7 degrees C). More recently, McGrath hit 94 degrees F (31.6 degrees C) on June 17, 2013, accordingto AccuWeather.

    What caused the high temps in 1915?

    Arctic Sea Ice Discussion 2016-2017: The Refreeze.

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    1 hour ago, BornFromTheVoid said:

    What you've been posting are links to climate denier sites. It's a poor attempt to disprove climate science by using a collections of media quotes out of context, the vast majority of which come from non experts.Even with than, most of the quotes relatively accurate statements about what was happening at the time or musings about the climate, not failed predictions at all.

    For example, the first quote is about warming and a lack of ice observed in New York in the late 19th century. It's an observation, not a failed prediction

    The second one is simply asking the question of whether or not the places experiencing warmth now may ultimately turn colder. Once more, not a prediction (though without our influence, a new glacial period would have arrived eventually).

    Even the quotes regarding the Arctic are observations. It did warm up earlier in the 20th century and set some local records. But those records have since been completely obliterated, time and time again, in the last decade or 2.

    I could do the same with the rest of the quotes but it's not worth the effort. The whole thing is simply a poor attempt to mislead.

    Well thanks for letting me know,instead of someone just deleting them without an explanation.

    After reading your reply,i checked a couple of the quotes and indeed whoever made the list is up to some shenanigans,but i did find the source of this quote and it is interesting to read.

    NOVEMBER, 1922. MONTHLY WEATHER REVIEW. page 589
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    THE CHANGING ARCTIC.
    By GEORGE NICOLAS, IFFT.
    [Under data of October 10, 1922, the American consul at Bergen, Norway, submitted the following report to the State Department, Washington, D.C ]

    The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth’s
    surface.

    In August, 1922, the Norwegian Departnient of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitzbergen and Bear Island under the leadership of Dr. Adolf Hoel, lecturer on geology at the University of Christiania. Its purpose was to survey and chart the lands adjacent to the Norwegian mines on those islands, take soundings of the adjacent waters, and make other oceanographic investigations.
    Dr. Hoel, who has just returned, reports the location of hitherto unknown coal deposits on the eastern shores of Advent Bay — deposits of vast extent and superior quality. This is regarded as of first importance, as so far most of the coal mined by the Norwegian companies on those islands has not been of the best quality.

    The oceanographic observations have, however, been even more interesting. Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north 80°29′ in ice-free water. This is the farthest
    north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus.
    The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81° north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it
    could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favorable ice conditions will continue for some time.

    Later a section was taken of the Gulf Stream off Bear Island and off the Isfjord, as well as a section of the cold current that comes down along the west coast of Spitzbergen off the south cape.
    In connection with Dr Hoel’s report, it is of interest to note the unusually warm summer in Arctic Norway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigtsen, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted wanner conditions in 1918, that since
    that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1865 to 1917.

    Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where
    glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.

    The change in temperature, says Captain Ingebrigtsen, has also brought about great change in the flora and fauna of the Arctic. This summer he sought for white fish in Spitzbergen waters. Formerly great shoals of them were found there. This year he saw none , although he visited all the old fishing grounds.

    There were few seal in Spitzbergen water this year, the catch being far under the average. This, however, did not surprise the captain. He pointed out that formerly the waters aout Spitzbergen held an even summer temperature of about 3° Celsius; this year recorded temperatures up to 15°, and last winter the ocean did not freeze over even on the north coast of Spitzbergen.

    Where can i find snow in Britain?

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    Ok,sadly,it looks like it's not going to snow anytime soon,where can i find snow that is lying in Britain right now?My nieces and nephews have not seen any for nearly 2 years and i thought it would be a nice surprise just to have a snowy day out.

    I am in Sunderland,so i looked online and there is an indoor snow/ski place at Manchester,but it's going to cost hundreds for a couple of hours(there will be 11 of us)

    Please can anyone help,it doesn't have to be a resort,just somewhere with snow so they can sledge for a few hours.

    Winter Model Discussion 12Z 22/1/13 onwards.

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Snow phall

    The irony however is that having said all of that they're still unable to forecast with any great degree of accuracy beyond 4 days at best. In the 1950's the accuracy was at 2 days.

    The question is, if you take away the computer model can a forecaster forecast. If they are presented with a chart at 12z today and asked to provide a forecast for 1,2,3 days ahead without the use of a computer can they do it. Half the people in here can interpret the models to provide a forecast and how many of those are expert mathematicians, physicists etc.

    All the lay person wants to know is will it be wet, warm, dry or cold, not be baffled with b******t. It's about the end product - an accurate weather forecast; from what I can see, all these advancements in technology, the sciences etc and for what...........to extend the forecasting accuracy by 2 days!

    Can anyone tell me,how accurate were the models concerning the big 2009/10 freeze?How far away from the start of the event did the models see what was coming and how did they handle the breakdown?

    North of England Regional Discussion

    in Regional

    Posted

    You'd have been moaning in my position! blum.gif

    Was getting sick of hearing about 8 inches here, a foot there whilst I looked out over my 3cm lol

    Sounds like a line from a carry on film.

    Snow in sunderland but heavier in one half, very light on the other side of town.

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