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Posts posted by Richard Waugh
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Just now, brenbrenbren said:
Possibly fallen snow being whipped up by these gusty winds and showing up as anaprop?
Could be at altitude I guess it doesn't actually look like too much is blowing about at the moment but it must be something like that fooling the radar, trouble is people outside that area just assume it must be snowfall and if they're not getting any get the hump. It's worth bearing in mind folks that radar isn't 100% accurate and can be fooled
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24 minutes ago, Norfolk Sheep said:
That radar is not accurate there's a lot of thin cloud about that is showing up on radar as snowfall but nothing is falling. I haven't seen a thing fall on N Norfolk coast so far today but from the radar we're getting a pasting.
Got to say looking at the roads don't go out if you don't have to there are so many roads closed and impassable even the snow ploughs are getting stuck and needing rescue with roads under several feet of snow drift. It doesn't look too bad when you look out of the window but some roads are under 3 feet of snow now especially in North Norfolk, the Wells - Fakenham road for example is completely stuffed, the A148 is blocked and that was gritted and ploughed (allegedly). Stay safe everyone!!
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There's a lot of showers in the north sea tonight just clipping the North Norfolk coast heading towards Lincolnshire as they head west, hopefully we can all catch a few of them
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My boys sledging this evening in Blakeney, Norfolk
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teeny weeny bit further north and west please
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I really would not be surprised to see more unforecast snow. We had a lot last night when it was supposed to snow in the early hours (which it also did) but it was snowing on/off from about 7pm giving a good inch or so before I went to bed and we had 5" or so this morning.
It has also snowed most of the day and it's now getting very black again so hopefully we'll see some more tonight whether it's expected or not. Hopefully it won't be too bad as need to get the car to the garage for repairs tomorrow and can't skip it as the MOT is due soon too.....
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What a day so much snow falling almost constant heavy snow from 7am until noon and looks like more to come too.
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Amazing stuff this morning in North Norfolk woken up to about 5" of snow and its snowed pretty much non-stop all morning.
Bit worried now as there's a gap in the radar but hoping some more showers will be along soon, hopefully a good bit of convection will dump a load more or at least keep cloud cover up to stop the sun melting it.
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7 minutes ago, Matty88 said:
The amount of abuse I got last week from 'know it alls' for suggesting we wouldn't get a 3ft snow drift was astonishing .... including being accused of being a troll! People just forgot the true extent of an easterly in March with strong sunshine...
Never the less some have had 3 inch dumps this morning so can't complain for March really!
Maybe we can keep the I told you so's until AFTER the chances of snow have gone? People have had such a strop on various forums moaning about only getting an inch or what not, moaning about the met office warnings etc but we've still got tomorrow and Thursday with more snow forecast for many. Once we get to the weekend then we can do the I told you so's but considering we're still inside the forecast period for me it's a bit too soon to say no snow drifts etc because there's still more to come yet, it may well be little or not the amounts suggested but forecasters can only go with what's in front of them tempered with experience if the models get it wrong then it's wrong
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Bitterly cold outside now, wind has really picked up but still not much more than a dusting of the white stuff but very cloudy tonight.
Really hope we're going to see some concentrated showers & actually get some accumulations. Doesn't look like we'll be breaking any records after all the hype.
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When does the proper cold actually arrive, all we're getting at the moment is the snow equivalent of drizzle.
Loads of cruddy little pellets for 20 mins then sunshine and repeat. I'm starting to wonder if this is actually going to happen in North Norfolk at all. Fingers crossed for overnight and tomorrow. Good luck everyone
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Lovely dusting this morning in North Norfolk, it fell around midnight last night & hasn't melted. Just a few flakes blowing in the breeze this morning. Unfortunately also blue sky right now too.
Just awaiting showers now, looking for convection I suppose.
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5 minutes ago, Alderc said:
Exactly, whether a cold or hot block either can be punted out in a flash. In continental areas yes it’s more difficult to move the seasonal areas of high pressure but not in the uk. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the breakdown accelerated into Thursday and push even further north and west as that is clearly the trend.
Errr no that is very clearly not the trend at all have you actually looked at anything other than a few GFS runs?
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Good dusting on the ground in North Norfolk now and lightly snowing
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1 hour ago, Weathizard said:
It's game over for the far south, pretty much unanimous agreement amongst the GFS and ECM ensemble suites for a fast warm up, I mean... anyone who can't see that in the GFS ensembles is in serious denial, people will say it's a 6 days away but we've seen once the GFS and ECM suites are onboard at this range they aren't often wrong.
Question for the more intelligent ones regarding the SSW, as it was a record reversal do you think to some extent that is what is shooting the coldest uppers straight through us at a vast rate of knots as the cold pool seems to move through us very fast, all things considered.
Not really there have been plenty of times when GFS and ECM have together "agreed" and it's gone a completely different way. Think of all the times when GFS & ECM agreed we were going to be buried under 25 feet of snow 5 days out and then at T+24/48 the cold spell completely evaporates and we ended up warm instead.
If this was showing a snow storm and staying cold for 2 weeks everyone says its FI, could change etc but somehow because it shows a breakdown and 2 models kind of agree it's suddenly "game over"??? If that low tracks 100 miles south it's far from game over and that level of correction is probably well within margin of error for the models concerned.
Yes it's there and it's showing a warm up for some BUT it's not certain, it's not game over.
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I don't understand all the wailing and gnashing of teeth based on 1 run (plus possibly the UKMO).
If this showed a snowstorm dropping 6 foot of snow people whilst excited would be saying its 6 days out, it's 1 run etc but somehow because it now represents sods law it's like it's carved in stone by some of the hand wringing going on.
Models are still showing nearly a week of bitter cold & snow for most can we just wait for it to start before panicking about the end.
We know cold dense air is difficult to shift so once we've had a few days of cold it well be that low doesn't make it as far north and its pushed back in fact given the depth of cold I'd be surprised if GFS suddenly has it right and this has happened before overblowing low pressure systems North etc.
Let's just give it a few more runs, see if its a trend rather than a spurious spike.
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48 minutes ago, richardc1983 said:
The charts are wonderful and looking great but my question is the sun too strong this time of year to melt any frost or snow?
Bear in mind cloud cover too, it can't melt anything if we've got almost constant cloud cover, which given the charts showing the amount of precipitation coming we'd have to have close to 100% cloud cover most of the time
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Got about a cm in north Norfolk hoping mores heading our way need some of that welsh snow...
East Anglia and North London weather discussion (25/02/2018) onward
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Posted · Edited by Richard Waugh
The radar has been utterly utterly useless the last few days, tonight we're under a bright blob of green but not 1 flake of snow (or drop of rain for that matter) I really do wonder at the coverage of radar, if some areas have lower resolution or are interpolated from other radar returns rather than from live data?