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49 minutes ago, Griff said:
Silence is golden...
omega block
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i remember 1975 on the other hand,i think it was may when there was some snow, up here anyway,diddent last long, and a cracking summer followed
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25 minutes ago, Don said:
Yes and that's why warm/dry April's are not necessarily great news for the following summer.
however occasionally they can run all the way through, was it 1984
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14 hours ago, Don said:
April 2011 was the warmest on record with a CET 11.8C, beating the previous record set in 2007. It had a real summerlike feel to it! April last year was very warm and settled until the final week when it turned much colder and unsettled, which pegged the CET back to a cooler but still very warm 10.4C.
and 2007 was an awful summer
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3 minutes ago, CentralSouthernSnow said:
How come? Is it cos you don’t like snow events?
please spare a thought for us poor g"ts that have to work outside, and parts of the body are frozen that you wouldent know could freeze,
snow is a right pain as it hinders work and getting to work more than anything else
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nothing beats dec 1981/ jan 1982 here
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Did i read someone mention uncle bartlett on here somewhere for around 20th of jan and somebody else saying a northerly at around the same time,very conflicting, shows nobody really knows do they.
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I think that your memory may be playing tricks on you...As I recall (MK) snow lay on the ground from about Dec. 7 until a few days after Xmas. London might have hit 15C, early in New Year, before the -27s hit again, in early January?
That said, my own memory like to 'play tricks' too, these days!
Ah yes, now i remember, there was this mild blip in the middle for about 2 days when it lashed down, melted the snow
never seen the river as big before or since, your right, 3 weeks of freezer, mild blip then 2 weeks of freezer.
i remember that i walked down the river, on the river that is, for over a mile, the ice was at least 6 inches thick, even
thick ice where it flowed over faster parts, iceicles hanging down the scaurs, all the land like concrete, lived on a farm then
had to milk cows, the tankers couldent get round for the milk, they supplied big plastic bags to put it in, cant remember how
big they were, held about 500 litres each, had to push tractor into the sun for whatever little warmth it had so as we could start it,
man it was cold !
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For me two winter events that will stand out above all others
Winter 1981/82 7 weeks of minus 20 degrees of frost at night, it was very mild upto around christmas
then a snow storm, after that into the freezer, got down to around minus 27 some nights spent time
living next to an aga cooker and a coal fire, no central heating then, that was at the height of a good
sunspot cycle, maybe the boffins could explain that.
Fast forward to 26th dec 1998, the boxing day storm, there has been some vicious wind events here
over the years but this one is firmly in the number 1 slot, it makes todays wind event a breeze in
comparison, i think it was called hurricane stephen, 100mph gusts around here, worse further north,
looked out at one point and things flying around, a tin sheet flew across the yard and impaled itself in
another roof, if youve seen the film twister you will get the idea, never want to witness the like again.
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at the moment i see a similar general pattern to christmas 1998
the boxing day storm, that was a bomb !!!
I never want to experience the like ever again
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As long as the azores high pressure is around there will be little change
it is king and has been for awhile, its as simple as that
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Did sombody say the magic words
bartlett/euro high
would be nice, as its the best way to melt all that snow with the minimum disruption
not a coldie i'm afraid, i work outdoors, for me snow is the worst, followed quickly by
mr jack frost, i remember 1982, no central heating then, we were all clammed around
a coal fire and an aga cooker, got down to -27, having said that i am no fan of shed loads
of rain either.
back to the models people.
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Many reasons -
It covers up grey landscapes and can transform urban landscapes into landscapes of real beauty. Historic buildings in particular can look extra special when coated in snow.
It can be enjoyed in so many ways, sledging, skiing, snowboarding, snowball fights, igloo and snowman building.
It transforms green landscapes into ones of sheer beauty, the fells in particular look extra magnificent in a coating of snow.
It transforms landscapes particularly urban ones into a quiet oasis, muffling the sound of traffic and general noise.
It sparkles and is mesmerising when it falls.
It instills feelings of wonderful childhood days - I think this is one of the key reasons why adults like snow as it makes us feel like children again. It is so cosy...
I could go on...
Well i suppose you are right from a certain point of view
But
Then it melts and then its my god the floods
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You a radio Ham ? I'm GI4 KBW.
Yes mate i am, 73 de m1jwr
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By jove! I think you've single handedly cracked seasonal forecasting. When I saw your original post I thought you were just horsing about, but having seen this I think you're on to a 'sure win'.
*doh*
Better than mystic meg then, next one, spring is on the way, saw frogs on the moove today/tonight, thats usually a shure thing
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As far as i am concerned, nature itself is a good indicator of the forthcoming season
i know a guy with a horse, the key is the thickness of its coat, it wasent wrong last year
This time last year it had a thick coat, and started to loose it last january after the cold
spell
This year its coat is nowhere as thick
what does that tell you all
Check the date of this post people, my money was allways on the horse
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I've worked outdoors for the last 42 years and had part of my roof blown off. I've worked in conditions where I've been so cold I couldn't speak, eat, or move properly after 8 hours but I still love extreme weather as much as I've ever done.
Yep, i left school in 1977, ive worked mostly outdoors or cold warehouses since,
some mighty cold times, and night shift some of the time, even colder
for example in 1981/82 i milked cows then, -20 sometimes thats one extreme
The other, boxing day 1998, this years storms nowhere near that, it blew
lots away, a roof here, some of it i never saw again, and a house near us had its gable end blown down
but snow is the worst, gets in the way of everything.
So 35 years next year
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But you all dont have to work out in it do you ?
Last week was typical it went a bit like this
Large low pressure with storm force winds, rain, snow and the kitchen sink will affect northern parts
and down south people say, i love extreme weather
then as the week progresses after the north got its usual battering, it was
Large low pressure with storm force winds, rain, snow and the kitchen sink will affect southern parts
it was, oh sh*t, mass panic and somebody even suggested that the coasts should be evacuated
bit different then isent it
Yes i prefer the weather we had in november,and a nice high pressure sitting over france/germany
bringing winds from the warm south would do me fine
You would all change you minds if you had to work out in -14 frozen to the core like i had to do last year
I find people liking extreme weather that can kill and also the risk of blowing our roof's off a bit extreme
different when it could kill somebody they know and blow their roof off
Call it bugger off if you like, i read the posts last week, some were getting hysterical
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I must be easily pleased...
It doesn't bother me to much if we don't get much or any snow this winter beacuse of what we've had over the last two.
Since i've been a member on Net-weather back in 2004, up until Winter 2009/10 we had to endure winter after winter of depressing charts, and it was really a case not when but if we would ever see a proper winter ever again. Then bingo, snow extreme cold months, & now I can sit safely in the knowledge that we will get plenty more of where that came from, maybe not this winter, but I am sure snow & cold will be a plenty in winters to come.
Something else to think about, in previous solar minimums there were very mild winters, not all had bitter cold.
Solar cycle 21 peaked around 1980, it was a biggie, i had a cb radio then, and the skip as we called it was major to say the least
propergation as its really called, now in cycle 24 is on the up, its been very good over the last few weeks, have ham radio now
and its coming in from all over the place, multipul paths, and some reckon cycle 24 wont be up to much, i am not too sure
Back to cycle 21, in 1981/82 we had a very cold winter, i remember minus 20+ at night for several weeks and that was at near enough
the peak of a very big cycle, there can be only one explanation to that
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Sorry to start a row people, but everybody is entitled to their opinion
in my case i will give you an example
Last december one evening as i am on back shift, the boss comes along
from his nice warm office and says, offload 42 600kg bags of fertilizer off
that trailer, not in the pretty cold warehouse,but outside
yes i did have a fork lift and no there is no heater
it was minus 14 and saying no is the wrong answer
i can tell you it was pretty flaming cold, made harder by icy impacted snow
The frost as long as its not too much is quite good as it kills a lot of the bugs
but snow, no, not for me, sorry
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I certainly wasn't expecting another freeze-up this November.
I was however expecting a bit more in the way of chilly days and night-time frosts. This blocked southerly pattern has gone on for far too long now.
You can all keep your frosts and snow, well, a bit of frost thats good, but snow, thats the worst, a real pain in the neck
its ok for those that work in a nice warm office etc
When you have to work out in the cold and snow its a different ball game
I know the country is lacking some rain, but at least you are not freezing your crappers off
So for all the people that work outside,for this time of year this weather is great, no complaints here
Apart from some much needed rain from time to time, it can stay like this until next spring for me
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As far as i am concerned, nature itself is a good indicator of the forthcoming season
i know a guy with a horse, the key is the thickness of its coat, it wasent wrong last year
This time last year it had a thick coat, and started to loose it last january after the cold
spell
This year its coat is nowhere as thick
what does that tell you all
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I agree, solar activity has been generaly low to very low with only spikes of high activity.
If activity continued like it has been the last couple of days then I would be more aprenhensive
about a -AO and NAO during the winter but I do not think this will be the case.
I can see no reason why we will not see further northern blocking and a - NAO this winter
although I myself think it will be more east based with a much greater chance of
continental Arctic air by way of Scandi and Siberian high with the colder SST,S aiding in
lower pressure taking a more southerly track with some classic easterly synoptic set ups.
I am not totally convinced about the solar output and the weather, i am no weather expert
but i am a ham radio operator and back in 1981 i was a cb radio operator, 1981 was around
about the peak of solar cycle 21, it was a big one, and the skip as we called it was massive,
you couldent hear your mate from down the street for american truckers.
You all go on about low solar output and cold weather, why i mention 1981, it was the coldest
winter i can ever remember, and yes, at near enough the peak of the biggest solar cycle i can
remember
the weather is gonna do what its gonna do
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Had a look on windmap, spadeadam, 0nly 10 miles from me, and yes, its a bit windy, we get this all the time
Spring 2021: Moans, Groans, Ramps and Banter.
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daf's arent doing well around here, frost has nailed them big style