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She's going west at 2mph and could increase Monday and Tuesday but at the moment she's expected to fizzle out

Think there just waiting to see the low move inland.

ITV said most of the rain Lancashire southwards for the most rain and 35-40 mph winds tonight,

Think they'll only issue the red warning when river floorings are imminent looks like leaves on trees will be causing a problem

Amber alert issued for parts of nw,ne, north and scotland

How am I looking for northwest England on Monday will I be getting the wet fart of the storm?

Be worried if that does happen.

Great potential for the south east and surrounding areas, I'll have to see what happens here in nw England. Got a feeling this storm has been underated in potential however.

Not Leeds mate, Leigh! Were even more angry at nothing here!

I like the Meto however as with any forecaster out there they cant predict the exact extent of a weather situation one day away let alone predict it 72 days before hand and have enough info just in the past 150 years of the earths existence to make a accurate weather pattern. I want cold and snowy weather this year and I like ramping but no one has the information to claim certain temperatures and precip then quote a year that's memorable and Say it'll the the same. Personally though I think if you asked someone from the met office not that they'd dignify it with a answer they'd probably swing more over to saying this winter will be a damp warm fart on the face of things. Don't forget also its the met offices duty to warn people if they thought this winter was so severe as to scare people which not even 63 would, they'd have said by now! I'll resume ramping shortly

Hopefully unlike last year we won't be clutching at straws looking at charts until the very last minute, in holding well get alot of good verification this year because the charts didn't really agree with each other. Unfortunately our weather isn't set in stone until jts actually happened

The most I had was freezing rain on the m62 without heated wing mirrors in a van! Disastrous.

Couldn't believe that last year, the warm front hit the cold from about 5 miles east alls I seen was snail! Don't get me angry about last year! Edit : shail

No cold spells in October just continuously below ave temps

I used to live in Germany and if you didn't clear the pavement in front of your house you were liable to being sued, that made more sense to me.

Generally the dew point has to be 0c or below for snow to Stick or unless other conditions are absolutely perfect

The only thing I'll be keeping a eye on for a while is that jetstream.

There's seems to be alot more talk about winter than any other year I've known, although I know its impossible to get a grip on December onwards at the moment I at least know this year that in being told there's alot of contributing factors that cold bring below average temps, whether or not they'll pan out is another thing but they've made me more hopeful than last year. Just please don't send any bad weather to Portugal at the end of this month because that's were I'll be!

How is this possible the thunderstorms coming back :s

Storms getting more powerful as it's passing east towards birchwood way sorry think it's passing you now

Massive thunderstorm now lots of lighting, bouncing it down!

I'm in Leigh, sorry I can't update it on this phone I meant to update a year ago. Got close thunder now

Thunder reported at Preston, Blackpool and skelmersdale so I won't be far away now

It's been very sunny here for an hour, now the winds picking up a bit, got dark clouds on there way ( just west of Bolton)

I'm in the northwest 100% cloud cover looks like night time, just drizzling