Alan Medlock Valley
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Yep the uk is a funny old place thats why we all get excited by snow because most dont see it that much!! Only one place in uk guarenteed snow every winter is the highlands!! They still have animals there from the last ice age though like arctic hair and ptarmigan, i cant believe i live in durham and have never been toi the highlands i could drive there in about four hours!!
Yes, quite a few snowy settlements there like Tomintoul, Braemar, Balmoral etc. A stones throw from the ski resorts if that's your thing.
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I do apologize, I don't have that much knowledge of Keighley/Skipton/Harrogate although thought they were rather prone to snow.
There's a guy on TWO and apparently he had little if any snow at all last Winter, he lives in Skipton or near it. I guess there's some massive differences over a few miles. That's the UK for you.
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Yeah you're right, sometimes, January 1995 gave 40cm here and that system came from the west, so not always.
Indeed we got a bit more here. It's like sometimes in a good East flow snow showers can get almost to Merseyside
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Somewhere at 80 meters above sea level in parts of the NE will generally get more snow than the equivalents in NW England. Newcastle will generally be snowier than Manchester. Hull will generally be snowier than Liverpool.
Here in Leeds, we seem do really well in marginal setups, even when everywhere else is getting rain.
If a weather system is coming in from the west they won't the Pennines would gobble some of the intensity up.
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Im sure i have read somewhere that durham is the snowiest city in england and possibly the coldest you should have been here in 2010 mate it was awesome
Yes city, but not snowiest place in England. Parts of NW England like Saddleworth are far snowier. 2010 it was bad everywhere. I can show you stats for Manchester if you like. -15C here at Manc airport
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I agree that there are probably not enough people at present to have a pure north east thread, I remember in 2010 when the north east got battered much more so than down south yet the south east folks were filling up an entire thread in about twenty mins it was amazing. I certainly dont mind being bunched together with yorkshire as there climate is very similar but with manchester, cumbria and liverpool, that is a bit much!! We get loads more snow than they do, haha
You get more snow than Liverpool for sure, hell I think even London gets more than Liverpool. But here we certainly can get quite a lot from north, west or east setups, were perfectly placed at times. so we probably get the same as you, your just close enough for coastal warming and low enough to not get significantly more. If you lived in Consett ,higher Teesdale or North York Moors then I'd agree.
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Fog slowly starting to thin out here now, certainly not as dense as 30 mins ago, temp is still dropping slowly though.
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I heard Manchester was closed or partially operating at least due to restricted visibility along the runway. Haven't heard anything go over since 7pm'ish so no idea what the current state of play is, but looking out the window there's a dense fog-bank peaking to at least 230m in the valley below. The tops of the hills and the moonlight shining bright here above.
Yes it's been foggy here since this morning, got gradually worse through the day, not any better now out there, very dense.
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Starting to snow in parts of Scotland at reasonable elevation..
Should imagine Eskdalemuir to do alright tonight..
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Altitude will obviously help places like Holme Moss, Snake Pass, Cat and Fiddle etc but I just can't see there being enough precipitation from this front to give more than a light covering at any altitude this far south.
One of the weather sites (can't remember the name of it has a warning for up to 8 inches of snow across central and eastern areas and over high ground in general but I think it would need some amazing turnaround to get at that sort of figure.
I think it will be very marginal tonight Ian, some places even a couple of miles apart could look different from each other by morning.
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Hopefully the game will go ahead. As you said, pretty sure it most certainly will, especially given any accumulation is likely to thaw throughout the day ...
I'll be keeping my eye out for how things look up at Standedge
True, should think places like Denshaw, Diggle and as you say around Standedge area will get a couple inches at least. Always a favourite area around there for snowfall.
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I would suspect the chances are the same as many other locations near the Pennines tonight; indeed there will be some degree of precipitation although the temperatures do remain in question ... I don't expect more than a few cm and wouldn't be surprised if there is no covering this time.
Still looking decent though for Sunday Night, despite this though, unfortunately, this chapter of the cold spell looks to be over by Monday except for of course the highest of hills.
Speaking of the 'highest of hills', there is no doubt that the Peaks, Pennines, NYM and parts of the Lakes will see a good covering (there is no way that there will be a battleground between sleet/snow/rain).
Odds on for tomorrow's match at Boundary not to be on?!!!
I don't think so, don't think we're looking at significant accumulations even at the ground, probably highest areas of Saddleworth may get quite a bit. Never say never though
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not looking to good for NW england
850 at -3 and DP above freezing that says rain to me
East of the pennines looks good
850 at -5 and negative DPS
seems to be a mider sector on the western side of the PPN
On the plus side looking better next week for the NW
C.S
Dew Point is -2 here at the moment, but it might rise later and also mind you I am in the east of the region.
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Jo Blythe on Granada Reports is going for Sleet & Snow showers across the whole region tonight, settling on higher ground with slushy deposits to low ground, I'll go with that!
Is that what she said? I missed the forecast.
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Dense freezing fog, visibility below 30 metres, been a while since it was this bad.
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As others have said the models we're seeing are still better than most of the mild stormy SW muck we put up with in most of the 90's 00's and it's not December yet or traditionally the coldest time of year, there should be a raging gale outside and 10 degrees but instead at the moment it's a few degrees below freezing. Still model wise things can improve even further with the 00z.
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At 168 it isn't great Steve, I agree. After all the promising charts we were witnessing last week + expert analysis + favourable teleconnections etc how on earth did we get here?
To be honest I think it was just sheer bad luck, the writing was on the wall for a very decent cold spell right up to the very last hurdle then it just fell through. A bit like last Feb when we was so close to something special, but it was the folks over the other side of the North Sea that got some crazy Winter weather. Anyway the models don't look bad tonight, nothing like last balmy mild last Christmas that's for sure
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Looking at the esembles here in the North there doesn't look like much of a warm up, looks like staying cold until at least Tuesday with still the chance of some wintry showers, milder further south at times.
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Sunny.
Max today so far only 1.3C, min was -5.4C, grass min was -10.2C
Been a bitter day out there, frost in the shade, on north facing roof and the other halfs car windscreen too, don't think it will melt now.
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Not a bad JMA tonight. Amplified again in its latter stages and i wonder where that low is going at t192. A colder run than GFS (not that the GFS is mild) and I still think around end of next week (7th or 8th) could be interesting for a time. Lets see what the ECM shows.
People have been saying something along those lines for the past 2 weeks, I.E it's always over a week away in FI from something potentially good, last week a few models were showing a decent snow event for some of us on the 1st, not likely now is it?
OK nothing mild is showing but as of tonight (unless a monumental turn around happens) people need to stop grasping desperately at straws and admit that nothing noteworthy will arrive until at least the 2nd week of December.
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As Steve Murr and I think a few others have said the GFS has a mild Atlantic bias to it - it ALWAYS struggles with the idea of bringing in the cold from the east or north east.
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People, the GFS blip is just one run and in deep FI, let's see how it pans out for the 18z and the rest tomorrow. No need for panic yet.
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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3361.png - Mild SW winds, get the deck chair out but it's 2 weeks out anyway and only one run it will change.
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I might be wrong but its the best suite so far from what i can see, mean of -4 850hpa for a huge chunk of the run and when you consider the lack of cold pooling near to us, that weights the h500 charts even more towards blocking, a snowflake value on every frame until the end of the suite, ok we need to see them around 55 to 60 % before somethings nailed but you wont see that until nearer the timeframe because of the resolution and the butterfly effect of modelling in FI anyway.
I guess you mean this one? http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/graphe_ens3.php?x=250&ext=1&y=51&run=18&runpara=0
Absolute corker!
but it's 2 weeks out anyway and only one run it will change.
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Well I'm 60 in a few years
so I'm not as energetic at this time as I used to be, so night and good luck you all. 