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    Ruling out March snow

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    A March with no lying snow is the exception rather than the rule here. The average number of mornings with lying snow in March, over the last 30 years, is 4 and ranges from 0 in 1991, 1997,2000, 2002 and 2003, to 14 in 1987; going back even further March 1970 produced 21 mornings with lying snow.

    The frequency of March snowfall has certainly declined in the last 10 years or so, although March 2001 managed 11 mornings with snow lying and a fall of 16cm on the 21st; this was the last heavy snowfall in March here.

    It's certainly true that a light snowfall in March is more likely to melt during the morning than in the winter months, firstly because the sun is stronger and also because it rises about 90 minutes earlier and therefore has more chance to 'do its work'. On the other hand if it snows with a very cold air mass in place even March sunshine has little effect, unless it's continuous.

    The fact that snowfalls in March or April tend to be short lived affairs is probably a due to the fact that they tend to result from showers or from back edge snow as a cold front moves through, resulting in relatively small accumulations which are more easily disposed of by a sun which is rising early in the morning.

    Prolonged heavy snow in a cold air mass is just as likely to stick as in mid-winter, as proved by the late April blizzards of 1981.

    I'd say the frequency of March snowfall has declined less in recent years than that in January and February.

    Copley nearest Meto site to me 8 miles West and 110m lower, also recorded 11days of snow lying >50% but with a max depth 25cm. March 2006 had 11 days of snow lying aswell max depth only 10cm though.

    A repeat of either month would be nice. Decent and prolonged snow cover isn't out the question.

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    A Frostless January?

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    No air frosts in Ferryhill yet either. The closest we have come is +0.1 degC on 3rd and +0.2 degC on 22nd. There was only one air frost recorded last January here, that was -0.1 degC on 23rd, so very marginal.

    Wow surprised you didn't get a frost on 22nd -4.3 here, and I'm on exposed hill location.

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    A Frostless January?

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    Its actually been quite bizarre the Scotland/ rest of uk split this winter, This January for me ( in Glasgow ) has been a cold one! Whilst down in the south been almost tropical!!madness.Cheers

    Scott

    Copley Co Durham

    10 air frosts

    11 days snowfall

    5 days snow lying

    Mild month still in this part of N England about 1C above average, you would expect this part of N England to colder/snowier than Yorskshire etc but we have not had it quiet as mild as those 50/100 miles further south.

    Mark

    Middleton in Teesdale,Co Durham

    First Snow of the season!

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Tucco

    Qouting an older winter TWS I would go back to November 1965 which in Newcastle was the snowiest I can ever remember,we had 3 snowstorms in a week culminating with over a fall of around a foot, I would however doubt that the coast suffered anything like we folk further inland as I believe all the falls were fairly marginal as far as temperatures went.

    Picture from Nov 1965 at Woodland,Co Durham.

    Snow at Woodland

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    Advice on Weather station for a newbie

    in Weather stations and equipment

    Posted

    Thank you very much, I will have a go at that.

    I need to sort something out on my hub which at present is not allowing me to access any FTP sites for some reason, will have to have a look into it and give my ISP a ring maybe.

    Apart from that though, the weather station is working brilliant. It had its first bit of rain last night and showed 3.6mm of rain, also had a maximum gust of 27.1mph yesterday as it was quite windy.

    Can't wait to get a webpage up and going.

    Thanks again for all your help everyone!

    Your figures closely match those from Ken Cook at nearby Copley. Slighlty drier as you'd expect being a few miles further eastwards, it shows you've got the rain gauge in a good location.

    http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/copley

    Good luck with your site.

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    Advice on Weather station for a newbie

    in Weather stations and equipment

    Posted

    Hey all,

    Just thought I would quickly introduce myself. My name is Mike, from the North East, live just next to Hamsterley forest (if any of you have heard of it...) We get some pretty extreme weather up here as we are quite high...think we are at about 1000feet. Always get some good snow in the winter round here too!!

    Recently thought about getting a weather station, I am mainly getting it for the run up to christmas as I just want to be able to tell when some snow will be heading my way :D After having a good read through some of the topics on here it seems that most of you guys (and gals) also love it when it snows! Brings back all those childhood memories and all that! B)

    So any advice on a weather station would be brilliant. I have seen one that I quite fancy, its a LaCrosse WS3600 and it looks to do pretty much everything I am after. Just a few quick questions, do you know if it will predict snow of it its just got the normal "Rain, Sun, Cloudy and Overcast" type forecasts. Also one more thing, how often does it record wind speed so I can get an accurate idea for gust speeds.

    Hope this was not posted in the wrong place, please dont flame me, I am new ;) !

    Cheers Mike

    Hi Mike, welcome to the forum. Do you live at Woodland? No to far from me at Barnard Castle at the moment.

    Mark,

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    First Snow of the season!

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    the earliest snowfall at low levels in england appears to be 31st 0ctober 1934 when 2 inches fell at belvoir castle, leicestershire, also in the costwolds november 1st 1942

    ill be lucky to get sn0w in dec and jan in my crappy area 76m asl now in 2000's

    As as recent as 30th OCT 2000 snowfell and laid down to low levels, personally can remember snow mid Oct 1993. 1974 was very cold and wintry. Link below shows some extremes in October weather.

    http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~taharley..._in_october.htm

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    named locations regularly coldest max and min

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    I think all the main ones have been mentioned. Topcliffe in the Vale of York can get quite cold during winter nights.

    Leek Thorncliffe in Staffs makes a surprising number of appearances for lowest daytime maxima.

    The wettest station on the current network must be Capel Curig in Snowdonia.

    I think seasons make a difference too. Redesdale Camp is very commonly the lowest minimum during summer. In winter, this accolade usually falls to Aboyne, now that Redhill has been wiped off.

    Whilst I'm thinking about it, it is very rare to find areas in what could loosely be described as the M6 corridor between Birmingham and Cumbria (e.g. Lancs, Cheshire, Staffs, Greater Manchester) and places west of the M1 in the Midlands (Leics, Northants, Notts, Derbys), recording notable or extreme weather. Possibly this area must be the most boring place to live for weather in the UK. The most interesting areas must be northern Scotland and the area to the east of an imaginary line between the Wash and the Solent.

    Sounds like you've just condemed most of England to being a boring place weather wise, Northern scotland does get interesting weather storms and snow but the area to east of the wash to Solent apart from summer heat and thunderstorms carn't be that better than the rest of the country unless you dont like snow?

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    The severe winter of 1978-79

    in Historic Weather

    Posted

    I think I'd be right in saying that the only time we had the rain-snow that winter was at the very start of the severe period in late December, when three or four warm fronts stacked up and pushed north. I still recall, even on Boxing Day I think, Michael Fish predicting that the warm air would probably win the battle.

    Most of the other events (and I'd beg to differ with the Eye's suggestion of two main blizzards, there were five decent events that winter, any of which on their own would have sttod very proud in a typical winter) were characterised by warm fronts banging into polar or arctic air - it was not unusual, therefore, for the snow to turn to rain further south; it's also the case that not every even made it up to Scotland. I suspect that Central Northern England very much got the brunt of it that winter, invariably being far enough north to stay pole-side of the polar boundary, but not so far north that the precipitation didn't reach. The additional point, further to Mr D's very good write up, is that we had another severe event mid-March. In those days March most definitely was a winter month.

    Days of snow lying from Robin Stirling 'Weather of Britain'

    Bramaer 96

    Edinburgh 30

    Eskdalemiur 62

    Buxton 82

    Birmingham 62

    Kew 25

    Buxton had more days snow lying than 1962/63 when it had 74.

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    Mean Snowiest Uk Date?

    in Historic Weather

    Posted

    Manley has the Durham average at 18 days with lying snow at 0900 and 23 days with sleet or snow observed to fall, the period of average is 1912-1949. Harrogate at an altitude of 478 ft has 23.1 and 23.6 days respectivley over the same period.

    I would imagine thos figures have fallen quite dramatically over the last 15 years or so.

    Just out of interest the average number of days with snow or sleet observed to fall at Westminster between 1669 and 1689 was 18.

    T.M

    Opps I stand corrected, as you say all these figures must fallen considerably the last few years :huh:

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    Mean Snowiest Uk Date?

    in Historic Weather

    Posted

    I remember reading that Durham's average over 1980-1997 was 14 days per year of lying snow, so the 1961-90 average is probably around 17-18 days- less than at Sheffield.

    G Manley in Climate and British Scene has Durham days snow lying at 23 days. I pressume this for earlier in the 20th century. Figures for Durham City and Sheffield must be very close. Figures for Corbridge are falling 24.5/lying 20.1 very close to Sheffield's figures even though it 50m lower than Sheffield.

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    Mean Snowiest Uk Date?

    in Historic Weather

    Posted

    I didn't know Aberdeen's average was once as high as 31 days per year in the 1990s- that's quite amazing! I actually have the Weather Logs with Dyce data going back to 1993 now but hadn't checked the annual snow cover frequency before 1999.

    Having read relevant stats in the Weather magazine, I can confirm that the Hastings area had big snowfalls from showery north-easterly incursions in the mid-1990s. Depths in excess of 10cm were quoted around 6-7 December 1995, while the MetO station reported lying snow on 11 mornings in January 1997, most likely spanning 1-11 January.

    I think Sheffield probably is England's snowiest city- the mean annual snow cover frequency is slightly higher than at Durham, which I'd previously thought to be England's snowiest city.

    Don't have any figures for Durham, but 1961-90 averages for Sheffield 131m are snow falling 24.4, lying 20.4.

    Durham site at 102m asl is obviously colder than Sheffield even though its lower.

    Durham precipitation is nearly 200mm lower than Sheffield, the difference is most marked in the winter months. Perhaps if Sheffield is snowier than Durham City its probably due the fact Durham City is much more sheltered from W and NW airflow due to the high ground to West being much higher and larger than near Sheffield.

    Often Sheffield picks up snowfall from NW flows even though it is to the East of Pennines when Durham City will remain dry.

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    July CET

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    Philip Eden in today's telegraph was saying that it will be the coldest July for England and Wales since 1993, for some parts it could even be the coldest since 1988, quite some feat in these times of rising temperatures...

    As for tonight and tomorrow night expect some very low readings for late July. Tonight could see widespread minima in north England and Scotland of around 8 degrees coldest in sheltered valleys where 5 degrees could be a average figure, indeed some places may record 2 or 3 degrees but I doubt anything lower but still for the 29th July quite cold indeed.

    For tomorrow night south of england and midlands will see a colder night whereas more northern areas won't be quite as cold as tonight. Again many inland parts of central southern england and Wales likely to see widespread minima below 10 degrees with some parts possibly recording 5 degrees locally below this.

    All in all wouldn't noramlly expect to see such low minima for another month or so...

    Last night several sites in N England/Scotland got to 5C, so 2/3C should be on the cards for sheltered locations.

    Mark

    Teesdale,Co Durham

    General Winter Discussion

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    16/1 - N.IRELAND. Plucky winner of an event a couple of seasons when given a brave ride by C.Kirkwood as she was nearly unseated in a blizzard just outside Belfast. Could surprise at a decent price if adapting to track.

    Good odds on N Ireland for Friday. Monday N York Moors or Highlands. What odds on Datmoor ? Close to Met office good in a Northerly? Ground firm after a few frosts.

    Mark

    Barnard Castle,Co Durham

    General Winter Discussion

    in Spring Weather Discussion

    Posted

    I know people focus on low ground in these situations because most people live there. But some of us have use the high routes to get to work, and tiny minority live 400m>600m asl.

    Snowfall looks possible at high levels for next week or so. Condtions in these areas could be severe, and could cause prolonged problems for transport at high levels.

    Mark

    Barnard Castle,Co Durham

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