irishlad69

where are you getting that from, what do you think the charts are trying to say ?

the cold always seems so close, and then BANG, it gets shoved out of the way, we seriously need the North Atlantic current to break down around the beginning of November every year, we just need to figure out exactly what controls it ?

how reliable is Gavin P ?

totally agree, 100%

I do believe that we are going to get a winter like 08/09, I am basing that on my gut instinct and seeing now what we seen during 08/09, I cannot believe that so many people put their trust into the charts & science, when in the past both have been wrong, instead they should just say what they feel is going to happen, sorry if that sounds strange but I have had a few vodka & cokes, lol , I am just really looking forward to a white Christmas and everything is pointing that way,

The AO is currently negative, so I do believe he is wrong

may I ask everyone's opinion as to which chart is the best to look at overall, but let me stress I only believe them up to 3 days

well I have just had a mixture of rain, hail and snow, so the weather doesn't even know what's it wants to do, lol

https://forum.netweather.tv/gallery/image/19221-weather/ interesting, but to far out, lol

I find it amazing that one chart says one thing and another chart says something else, not two charts say the same thing after 3 days, but yet people still go by what they are saying 10 days - 2 weeks down the road, charts are only as good as the data is put into them, but after 3 days they are useless, our climate/weather system is that sensitive not even models can tell you what's happening. The other thing is that even the great almighty MET Office has said that this November has been on average 3 degrees colder than last November, does that tell you something, I believe that we are going to have a cold winter, and a white Christmas. I also believe that the winter of 09/10 was so cold was caused by the BP oil leak clogging up and nearly stopping the North Atlantic Current, I could be wrong but that's what I believe. Come on winter, let it, let it snow, let it snow,

yeeeeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, its snowing heavy, and lying, get in,

I do realise that old people are slow, however for you can be there when every single OAP reads the front page of their paper, laughs and turns it straight over must mean you are extremely fast, or you all meet up in a hall somewhere and ask them to turn all at the same time,

I am no expert in all this stuff and I am still learning, so 200+ sunspots is not high, and does it matter what type of sunspots they are?

can I just ask all those who have slagged off certain newspapers (express etc) and forecasters (Mr Madden and Powell) for their snowmageddon predictions, if they are right, are we going to see a massive apology from you all

I have got to admit and even repeat myself, nut the extremely high sunspot numbers are worrying me a lot, I do believe they have a say in which way our weather goes , I really do hope I am wrong though, PLEASE GOD LET ME BE WRONG

well if the met office says its going to happen, then it will, (NOT),

totally agree with you there, people seem to give up way to soon

the ECMWF seems to be giving it colder than the GFS, is that good or bad, I mean in the terms of which chart is better of course, is it just me or does the cold seem to be winning and keeping the warmth at bay as the month goes on

back to the weather, and this is just my personal view, and with NO SCIENTIFIC EVEIDANCE, I believe in my heart, and yes I am a coldie lover that this winter will be very cold, with heavy snow, and that's for the whole of the winter period, not just certain days, weeks, or months. At least all the above is just what I am wishing for

well that's me told how can I ague with such a comeback as that, that is sarcasm if you didn't notice

one thing I have noticed about people on here, is that one moment your saying this and the next your saying that, for example 1. when it comes to all the models, one moment your saying they are wrong when they say its going to be cold, and when they say its going to be warm they are right. I think its time people made up their minds if they believe in the models at all, not just when it suits them. seriously anything an further than 5 days max is useless, but yet some people are looking at 3 months away 2. when people slag off certain papers and forecasters (and I am no fan either), and say they are scaremongering etc, but when the Met office says something then its got to be right and yet they have a terrible record for forecasting when its any further than 3 days out. all I am saying is that to many people seem to sit on the fence on here, and whatever way the weather goes they will be able to say, I WAS RIGHT,

if the charts are correct, and that's a big if, going towards the end of the month the cold seems to be winning more and more, and yes I know its a long way out, but we can always hope

i think people should stick to the topic at hand, THE WEATHER, an not pick on certain individuals, regardless of what they is happening in their area, unless of course you are there at the time, , GROW UP,