Norway Nut

I know that this message will be deeply unpopular but..... I've been reading this thread from the beginning and have come to the conclusion that you all have missed the point. Peirs was asked to address the "Climate fools day" shindig because he was saying what the organisers wanted to hear. He would(should) have been paid for the forecast rather like the MetO was paid for the report that said the earth was going to hell in a handcart because of all the CO2 we were putting into the air through the use of coal power stations. Of course we all remember the report but forget that it was Maggie who paid for it to destroy the miners. As an engineer who has worked for the civil service for 23 years I have seen many instances where a report gathered evidence which seems to support conclusion A but then concluded that the preferred government option would be the "best option". It's all a question of being able to say a colour is light blue when to somebody else it is a nice cornflower blue. He who pays the piper, calls the tune. Forgive me but this my take on the ridiculous forecast that came out of the "climate fools day" shindig. For more insights into the workings of HMG see Yes...

Already have the snow and ice tyres on the car. Just waiting for the snow.

Preferred the cold option but after shedding 6 stone perhaps I would choose the warm option now! Mind you no chance of that here in Norway - max of 22 C this year in my location.

Newspapers are the same here in Norway as the UK ones - always saying the weather is going to be such and such. I usually trust yr.no articles though.

Thanks for the very interesting forecast but ..... Living at 40m asl here in the coastal fringes of Western Norway ( 50 km south of Bergen) can I interpret your forecast as if I was in the Shetlands or am I too far east and on the wrong side of the North Sea? Again many thanks for the forecast

Well, it's been a very nice day here on the western coast of Norway for quite some time, max of 8 degrees and sunshine all day ( woke up to just 3 degrees). Seen my first snow of the season on distant mountains towards the east (Hardanger Plateau). Forecast is for it to get warmer ( up to 11 deg) but to stay dry. Rain forecast tho' for the WHOLE week ( from Sunday til Saturday) with temps in the 12 to 14 range. Autumn in Norway "is the pits", roll on winter!

That's 'because your looking at some of Norway's glaciers!

Living here in Norway, the weather forecasts are pretty hopeless and I long for the days of BBC forecasts (domestic). I also watch BBC World forecasts where the presenter has to cover the globe in under 2 mins - see it, it's terrible! One way they could make the forecasts better in the UK would be to allocate 5 mins once a day for a proper in-depth analysis. Met Office presenters of course.

I suppose you could look at it like that i.e a pessamistic outlook. Personally, I'm pleased that there seems to be a minor reversal going on. Admittedly I have to wait another 10 years to see a trend develop.

Ice pack seems to be bottoming out at approx 5.3 - 5.2 million square km for this year. I'm now looking out for any INCREASE in coverage but not expecting anything noticeable until the end of this month. It's good to see that the perm ice pack seems to be recovering.

Well, the "no" generator failed over Hastings/St Leonards this week and left a white residue on the streets. There was enough to stop the taxis going up the steepest hills but completely washed away now with the overnight rain. BTW the heating systrem has kicked in now, to bolster the the "no" field generator.

Overcast and dry here in Hastings temp currently 2.6 "No" generator online and functioning.

Would the increase in cosmic rays have anything to do with a slackening solar wind and magnetic flux changes on the Earth due to pole reversal? Would be interesting to see if we could tie it in with major ice advances.

I'd like to propose a new measurement of snow........ Known as the "scale foot" this will equate 10mm of snow to 1 foot (imperial). This will enable people to proclaim that "Wow! I've had 3 scale feet of snow!" when in actual fact they've barely had 3cms.

Any chance of an updated chart showing ice cover? cheers

If anyone is interested this site gives pictures of places around Svalbard - unfortunately its in Norwegian. http://www.longyearbyen.net/visside.php?id=28 But enjoy! Norway Nut

Read the link Mondy and thoroughly enjoyed the light hearted manner the data was presented in. ( How to screw with 10D strings - interesting title!). However as he admits himself he is not a weather scientist merely a statisican(?) and is very open as to how he biased his findings. I shall try to look behind the data from now on for possible biasing.

Nobody is saying the winters are going to be warmer rather the frequency of cold spells has been decreasing and thus the average temp will rise. i.e. the range of temperatures will decrease.

I can't seem to regulate my body temp once the outside temp gets above 25 C - so I like it cold. Will fish at -6C without gloves. Enjoyed an event in Norway where my feet froze to the ice in the bottom of the boat I was fishing in. Had to break the ice to move. Been to Siberia in Jan and April - both times cold ( -18 in Jan) and really enjoyed the crispness of the air. During the Jan trip I saw that the air was "twinkling" in the sunshine and realised that the air was full of tiny ice crystals. Magical. Kevin

Mmmm, Hastings snow ramping capital of UK? I don't think so. Try Westfield!

Mr Data, We are dealing with Norwegians here and if the bunch that decide the awarding of prizes donated by a bloke that made millions out of dynamite are anything like the bunch of Norwegians I know ( and greatly love) then ........

Just a point of order for all protaganists of both sides of the arguement - if you're going to use TLAs ( Three letter acronyms) please let us non-weather scientists know what they mean. I mean before you know it you'll be using FLAs and us mere mortals won't have a clue as to what you're saying. Kind regards

Right here goes for my punt:- 251206 Inverness 3 251206 Loondon 1 080107 Kings Lynn 2 100107 Peterborough 2 300107 Norwich 3 040207 Ayr 3 200207 Jersey 1 040307 Ipswich 2 110307 Fort Wiliam 3 Is it possible to have Hastings for 0 points for any time from the 21/12 to the 04/01 as it always snows when I'm in Norway waiting for the snow there?! Kevin