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Preferred the cold option but after shedding 6 stone perhaps I would choose the warm option now! Mind you no chance of that here in Norway - max of 22 C this year in my location.
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Newspapers are the same here in Norway as the UK ones - always saying the weather is going to be such and such. I usually trust yr.no articles though.
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Thanks for the very interesting forecast but .....
Living at 40m asl here in the coastal fringes of Western Norway ( 50 km south of Bergen) can I interpret your forecast as if I was in the Shetlands or am I too far east and on the wrong side of the North Sea?
Again many thanks for the forecast
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Well, it's been a very nice day here on the western coast of Norway for quite some time, max of 8 degrees and sunshine all day ( woke up to just 3 degrees). Seen my first snow of the season on distant mountains towards the east (Hardanger Plateau). Forecast is for it to get warmer ( up to 11 deg) but to stay dry. Rain forecast tho' for the WHOLE week ( from Sunday til Saturday) with temps in the 12 to 14 range.
Autumn in Norway "is the pits", roll on winter!
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There seems to be an identical snow patch in southern Norway!
That's 'because your looking at some of Norway's glaciers!
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Living here in Norway, the weather forecasts are pretty hopeless and I long for the days of BBC forecasts (domestic). I also watch BBC World forecasts where the presenter has to cover the globe in under 2 mins - see it, it's terrible!
One way they could make the forecasts better in the UK would be to allocate 5 mins once a day for a proper in-depth analysis. Met Office presenters of course.
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The melt season is now semi-officially over:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html
Please note the comments about this year's levels and the prognosis for the future. :)P
I suppose you could look at it like that i.e a pessamistic outlook. Personally, I'm pleased that there seems to be a minor reversal going on. Admittedly I have to wait another 10 years to see a trend develop.
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Ice pack seems to be bottoming out at approx 5.3 - 5.2 million square km for this year. I'm now looking out for any INCREASE in coverage but not expecting anything noticeable until the end of this month.
It's good to see that the perm ice pack seems to be recovering.
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RAMP ALERT
SATSIGS RAMP Level 4
You had to see the lights flashing, hear the bells, whistles and claxons whooping to believe it this evening. Epicentre MIGHT be SW France somewhere. We knew it was a biggy coming in because the eyes on our portrait of Eye in the Sky (really, we have him immortalised on the wall at HQ, along with one or two other people) were flashing alerting is to an incoming from SATSIGS-8 somewhere up at the level of Tropospheric warming, high above Hastings...
Well, the "no" generator failed over Hastings/St Leonards this week and left a white residue on the streets. There was enough to stop the taxis going up the steepest hills but completely washed away now with the overnight rain.
BTW the heating systrem has kicked in now, to bolster the the "no" field generator.
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Overcast and dry here in Hastings temp currently 2.6
"No" generator online and functioning.
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Came across this: http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_rel...s_about_weather
Seems there may be a link between Cosmic Rays and SW.
Would the increase in cosmic rays have anything to do with a slackening solar wind and magnetic flux changes on the Earth due to pole reversal? Would be interesting to see if we could tie it in with major ice advances.
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I'd like to propose a new measurement of snow........
Known as the "scale foot" this will equate 10mm of snow to 1 foot (imperial). This will enable people to proclaim that "Wow! I've had 3 scale feet of snow!" when in actual fact they've barely had 3cms.
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Any chance of an updated chart showing ice cover?
cheers
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If anyone is interested this site gives pictures of places around Svalbard - unfortunately its in Norwegian.
http://www.longyearbyen.net/visside.php?id=28
But enjoy!
Norway Nut
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And i'm not finished with you yet! Perhaps you should have a little gander at this. If you do and take umbrage, perhaps it would be better if you replied to the blogspot itself - i'd be very interested in a reply directly to you (or anyone else for that matter)
Read the link Mondy and thoroughly enjoyed the light hearted manner the data was presented in. ( How to screw with 10D strings - interesting title!). However as he admits himself he is not a weather scientist merely a statisican(?) and is very open as to how he biased his findings. I shall try to look behind the data from now on for possible biasing.
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What I never understand about these threads is why the prolonged AO phase that we have seen since the late 80's quickly dismissed. Many people bang on about how our winters are warmer and GW is responsible and yet they choose to ignore such a simple and yet important factor.
If you wish to believe our winters will just get warmer and warmer then thats your opinion which you are entitled to. My own opinion of the next decade is a return to colder winters than we have seen since the late 80's although probably not as harsh as winters in the past. I do believe GW is real and has had an effect on our climate but the prolonged positive phase of the AO has inflated the effects of GW. You can clearly see the effects of this because the greatest warming has occured during the winter months rather than any other season!
Heres a prediction for you the return of colder winters will actually start now and im fairly confident that both Jan, Feb will be below normal!
Nobody is saying the winters are going to be warmer rather the frequency of cold spells has been decreasing and thus the average temp will rise. i.e. the range of temperatures will decrease.
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I can't seem to regulate my body temp once the outside temp gets above 25 C - so I like it cold. Will fish at -6C without gloves. Enjoyed an event in Norway where my feet froze to the ice in the bottom of the boat I was fishing in. Had to break the ice to move.
Been to Siberia in Jan and April - both times cold ( -18 in Jan) and really enjoyed the crispness of the air. During the Jan trip I saw that the air was "twinkling" in the sunshine and realised that the air was full of tiny ice crystals. Magical.
Kevin
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Mmmm, Hastings snow ramping capital of UK? I don't think so. Try Westfield!
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And you were right, I'm still not convinced of the justification.
Mr Data,
We are dealing with Norwegians here and if the bunch that decide the awarding of prizes donated by a bloke that made millions out of dynamite are anything like the bunch of Norwegians I know ( and greatly love) then ........
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So it's fair to say that the TAR gave a range of projections between 1.4 and 5.8C, which would give a mid-range value of 3.6C. The 4AR gave a similar range from 1.8 to 4.0C, giving a mid-range value of 2.9C. Even with appropriate rounding of these figures (to 3.5 and 3.0C respectively) there is a reduction in the mid-range (so arguably "most likely") projection.
From The Telegraph last December, "The IPCC has been forced to halve its predictions for sea-level rise by 2100, one of the key threats from climate change. It says improved data have reduced the upper estimate from 34 in to 17 in." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../nclimate10.xml
There is a comment in the 4AR SPM that estimates of sea level rise in the 20th century are around 17cm - perhaps there is some confusion over the claim, since the Telegraph states 17 inches, not 17 centimetres. 17" equates to about 43 cm, which is the upper limit of the B2 scenario. I shall have to check the TAR to compare these estimates.
The IPCC no longer make specific reference to the MBH1999 graph - it is incorporated into the group of past climate reconstructions, but it is neither specifically identified in the text, nor printed by itself in numerous different places in the report. Although you could argue that it is "pointing in the same way" as the other reconstructions, it is one of the most distinctively extreme reconstructions. It is interesting that a graph featured so prominently in the last assessment report should be so buried in the most recent.
CB
Just a point of order for all protaganists of both sides of the arguement - if you're going to use TLAs ( Three letter acronyms) please let us non-weather scientists know what they mean. I mean before you know it you'll be using FLAs and us mere mortals won't have a clue as to what you're saying.
Kind regards
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Mods, you may or may not want to move this.
I am struck that the many cold-lovers-to-the-exclusion-of-any-other-more-realistic-option on this board must be getting very irritated at the lack of any real and legitimate outlet for the excitement, emotion and general frosty froth that would normally have had some cause for release by this stage in the autumn. Talking about a million highly unlikely "if's", "but's" and "maybe's" out at +660h is all well and good, even in the snow capital of Brighttown, but in the meantime my lawn is still growing like it's May; it isn't - and I'm getting annoyed.
Therefore, all the dreamers out there, here's a chance to construct your own fantasy winter.
The rules are simple:
- You have 20 snow points to "spend" in order to select dates and locations on which snow might occur. The individual whose selection produces the greatest number of points will win.
- You must have at least one choice from each month.
Your choices are (date - location - cost)
061206 - Manchester - 1
101206 - Aberdeen - 3
111206 - Brighton - 1
181206 - Newcastle - 2
231206 - Belfast - 2
241206 - Caerdydd - 1
251206 - Birmingham - 1
251206 - Steeton - 2
251206 - Inverness - 3
311206 - London - 1
050107 - Sheffield - 3
080107 - King's Lynn - 2
100107 - Peterborough - 2
140107 - Glasgow - 5
140107 - Leeds - 4
140107 - Southampton - 2
200107 - Abingdon - 1
210107 - Heswall - 2
230107 - Edinburgh - 4
240107 - Wolverhampton - 3
260107 - Scarborough - 4
260107 - Plymouth - 1
260107 - Carlisle - 3
300107 - Norwich - 3
040207 - Ayr - 3
040207 - Dundee - 2
040207 - Durham - 5
060207 - Dover - 2
070207 - Aberystwyth - 2
080207 - Dublin - 2
100207 - Doncaster - 4
110207 - Kirkwall - 6
110207 - Perth - 5
110207 - Portsmouth - 2
140207 - Liverpool - 3
160207 - Newquay - 1
180207 - Nottingham - 3
180207 - Reading - 2
180207 - Aberdeen - 6
180207 - Lincoln - 4
200207 - Jersey - 1
240207 - Blackpool - 2
260207 - Middlesborough - 3
010307 - Derby - 2
030307 - Blackburn - 3
040307 - Ipswich - 2
080307 - Newquay - 1
100307 - Londonderry - 2
110307 - Fort William - 3
Wanter points are WON as follows.
If it snows at the location on the day - 10
If there is an air frost on the preceding night - 2
If it is a freezing day - 5 (this includes the 2 pts for the air frost on the night before)
If there is lying snow at the location (irrespective of, and in addition to, whether or not it snows on the day) - 4
Every one of the dates is well over the FI horizon: so come on, turn the prospects for wonter into a real wanter full of winter.
Right here goes for my punt:-
251206 Inverness 3
251206 Loondon 1
080107 Kings Lynn 2
100107 Peterborough 2
300107 Norwich 3
040207 Ayr 3
200207 Jersey 1
040307 Ipswich 2
110307 Fort Wiliam 3
Is it possible to have Hastings for 0 points for any time from the 21/12 to the 04/01 as it always snows when I'm in Norway waiting for the snow there?!
Kevin
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Hi,
I've just been reading the early debate above and am astounded by it
Firstly, for the record I'm in favour of new build. As I've said on other webchats Wind is fine but it is just the icing on the cake - the cake has to be nuclear or some other low carbon energy source.
Secondly, since many of you live away from the south coast you may not realise that our neighbour across the Channel generates 80% of its electricity by nuclear with many power stations on its northern coast - not to mention Cap l'Hague REPROCESSING PLANT (http://www.kare-uk.org/kare-main.htm#cap). Its ironic that the cross channel electricity link was built to enable us to sell electricity to the French but it now works almost continuously in the other direction.
You all might be interested to know that Norway is starting a national debate on whether to build a nuclear power station. I can't think of another nation that is as green as Norway and if it is good enough for them then it's good enough for us.
Rant over
Norway Nut
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Hi,
Just thought you'd like to see a little bit of snow. This picture comes from the bt.no (Bergens Tiende) site and is of a small community called Finse, about 3,000ft up in the mountains. And yes, it is a railway line going through the centre of the picture. And no the trains are not stopped in the winter!
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Current conditions in Hastings/St Leonards seafront.
Surface wind ENE- light
Wind aloft ESE
PNN - light rain
Temp - 6-7C
Call To Rampers - White Ops
in Spring Weather Discussion
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Already have the snow and ice tyres on the car. Just waiting for the snow.