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On 29/02/2020 at 21:23, Freeze said:
This storm was nowhere near Spain, in fact here on the south coast it was by far the nicest day of the last 2 weeks or so
Yep this was exactly my point
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19 hours ago, Jo Farrow said:
Weekend Storm Jorge, not Storm Ellen. It's just a name. - Blog by Jo Farrow
WWW.NETWEATHER.TVMore wet and windy weather this weekend from a deepening low pressure. Spanish Met service got in first with the naming so it is Jorge not Ellen. There are more warnings.Bit more than that
If you read my post I was talking about why Spain have named it, theres not a lot of impact for them, and even if you include France the same applies.
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Why have the Spanish named this as a storm? It's hardly effecting them at all, maybe a bit of rain thats it.
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4 minutes ago, wimblettben said:
Well the Met Office got it right for us again yesterday as I got two 47mph gusts and one 49mph gust up the hill before I had to get back as my finger tips were getting very cold. They were the only ones mentioning peak gusts of around 50mph wears others had 60mph or even 70mph which was way to high.
Rain-wise, again the Met Office got it the closest with predictions anywhere from 15mm to 45mm in 24hrs for lower levels and we got 25mm or around 1inch.
Yeah I agree, these models seem to be way out, yet people seem to encourage their accuracy over the met office, even the meto app has been spot on.
Not even sure where the models are generating their speeds from either as just a quick look at the intensity of the part of the low pressure over the UK could see it wasnt conducive to 70mph winds.
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18 minutes ago, steveinsussex said:
Pointless post, just because it’s not a hurricane in your back yard
I think its obvious that in many places the models were nowhere near what actually happened last week, same this.
The met office have been spot on with their local wind forecasts
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Literally nothing here in Hereford again wind wise, obv rain is going to be an issue though.
Either this forum gets over excited every time and those gfs models are always way off, or i just live in a sheltered area.
Met office has been more modest and correct.
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2 hours ago, ancientsolar said:
looking at 70mph gusts in Wales... and seeing how the winds were advertised as 70-80mph for last weekend.. and there were a couple of 90mph, I wouldn't take anything for granted.~ Most of our towns are in the valleys, flooding isn't such a concern,. but landslides are and the wind can be funnelled up the valleys increasing strength.. so again.. take nothing for granted.
Because in terms of wind its not actuslly going to be that bad, also the fact that with nearly every storm its overhyped by many on here. Not very often a storm lives up to the hype on here.
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Theres been many youtube tests in wind tunnels with people standing up just about in 100mph+ winds, cant see people being thrown about by 60mph winds unless you weigh 30kg
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Im not sure how location specific the warnings are meant to be, however it would have been a much more accurate warning to go with yellow on the west half of the country and amber on the east, possibly amber on the west coast of wales too.
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Was waiting for that cold front to move through in Hereford before drawing conclusion, but certainly here in Hereford for some reason it wasnt bad at all, wouldnt even give it a yellow warning here.
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26 minutes ago, Thundershine said:
This is called "scud" cloud. Sometimes it can be low enough to scrape the ground almost, just ahead of a gust front. it forms under a strong updraft area most commonly, due to locally low pressure under the up-draft causing humid air to condense below the usual level, and due to the nearby cold air of the gust front colliding with the warm updraft air, causing condensation.
Tons of excellent examples on Google Images showing exactly the same thing. It can sometimes be confused for funnel clouds or precipitation but is neither.
What would it feel like to be stood in it if its touch ground as in this case? Any increase in wind? Precipitation?
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3 minutes ago, The PIT said:
If the area is wooded it could be low level cloud being lifted by the an up draft. The first and 2nd pictures seem to show than more than any funnel clouds. See similar at Ladybower dam from the forests there.
Not particularly wooded there mainly fields.
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10 minutes ago, chrisbell-nottheweatherman said:
Might be as well to submit these shots to TORRO (http://www.torro.org.uk/) as this is their area of expertise.
Thanks ive sent them the pics
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2 minutes ago, johnholmes said:
I'' try!
I 'think' they are ppn from very active CB cloud reaching the ground. I don't think they are what some may believe them to be that is tornadoes, but I stand to be corrected. To me there does not appear to be any rotation? Some outflow on one of them but not sure if that is just some photographic effect, and it was 9 pm so with very thick cloud above then rather unusual looking cloud effects can occur.
Sorry can't be more helpful.
Thanks, i could see areas moving together and around each other in the main bit, but not particularly fast, could have been the distance though. I tried to drive to find it but gave up
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Whats that in laymens terms lol. A funnel cloud is not tornado related no?
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6 hours ago, fujita5 said:
When/where was this taken? Very dramatic!
Worcester uk, yesterday evening around 9pm
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Can anyone identify whats going on here, almost looks tornadic lol
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Warning for the actual severity please. Also 45mph winds do not require a warning
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I know there are other considerations, but I thought generally speaking the storms were named when an amber warning at least is issued? Are we now naming storms that only carry a yellow warning?? The last one was yellow only also and not imo worthy of a storm that needed a name.
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Do you work for the Met Office or something lol? I like the Met Office but they have got things wrong probably as many times as anyone else. I think any decent forecaster would review all data presented in front of them, pretty narrow view to be met office, met office, met office all the time.
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In my humble opinion, referring back to the debate about the potency of this storm earlier in the thread, from being just a viewer of this website for some time, posters seems to fall into two sides here, those who like to over dramatise the situations/forecasts and those where nothing bothers them unless its a 150mph+ storm. With not much moderate grounded opinion in between.
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"Call me old fashioned but years ago this would of just been a windy day. Now we call these storms as we lean towards more american type forecasts. In my opinion a storm is when gusts inland widely reach 60-70mph with exposed locations hitting 80-90mph"- 6
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