[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

Can't see anything to.be optimistic about tonight regarding cold give me high pressure with frost and fog Any day. wet and windy with cold zonelty doesn't do it for me

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

 If you on a hill up north yes Not good for southern central England I'm fast given up on this winter 

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

This winter's had more frosts then last winter only 13 days of winter very optimistic we will see a surprise in the lead up to Christmas and new year like gav said today don't blame amarica this time for this current mild snap

 

 

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

I'm more optimistic tonight with the output the high seems to be stronger to the east I think more surprises on the way

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

Surface colds good enough for me

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

High pressure over England and Wales cold crisp with frost and fog that's the way I see it

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

Looks cold and frosty for England and wales

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

R.I.P  ian

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

R.I.P  ian

[Model output discussion - 5th December 2016 - Into Winter we go]

Cold frosty Xmas week will do me fine