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Heavier radar echo moving over my location it’s absolutely belting it down might be an interesting commute in a few hours. 

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Covering here and looks like some more to come. Already a win for low elevation land, looks like snow to the coast still yet. 

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Granada news weather wasn’t convinced by snow prospects. I guess the showers will come through at a good time overnight. I’ll be sad when it’s cold raining tomorrow afternoon  

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

The met office has a very difficult balancing act and streamers can catch them off guard as we know. The December snow event in the Lake District should have been a red for example with hindsight. I have friends in Windermere who’s absolutely experienced high impacts (car abandoned another taking 2 hours for a 20 min journey etc.) when and how do you make that call though? (People don’t read the matrix for the most part) that’s why they go for these blanket conservative ones then ‘upgrade’ the warnings later. Trouble is, it’s not much of a warning then. Going back to the December snow my mates mum had already driven out that morning and had to abandon her car later on, with the amber helpfully coming after they’d already had 10cm+. As I said I don’t envy them having to make the call with snow in the UK.

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

My favourite type of weather today, arctic air sunny, shame I’m in work would be a fantastic walking day.

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Colder air is filtering south now.  XC weather observations are showing Dew points of 0 or negative figures as far south as London. Actual air temps are a few degrees above at the coast but any precipitation should be of a wintry nature at this point. Flow is very NNW, almost directly Northerly, that slight western component is bringing precip into west Merseyside but expect that to fizzle out if and when the flow goes even more northerly for now. 

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

In low-elevation land, you have to manage expectations. My checklist starts with: 1. Is actual snow falling? (not cold rain) 2. Is it daytime? (day snow is pretty rare.) 3. Wow is it sticking? (probably from overnight snow) 4. Oh it's sticking to all surfaces (rather than the grass, bins and roof) 5. ???? (only happens every decade or so). For this week I can see 1,2 and maybe 3 being achieved. Which is about as good as it gets down here outside of lucky streamers or a 2009/10 happening.  

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Wow they've gone for it with the Thursday warning. The curse is here hah. 

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Oh dear imagine it being a bust after a chase that’s gone on for…well a while. If there’s no snow bring on some arctic sunshine please weather gods. 

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Cold and dry airmass out there, good for dealing with all the waterlogged areas in the region. Starting to get excited about the potential, why do we do this to ourselves

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Exciting times in the weather model watching world. Still a lot that could change and the mad thread has a tendency to implode when it goes wrong. More realistically. I am looking forward to high pressure next week, I’ve missed crisp, calm days this won’t and hopefully this will be with some sunshine. 

[Northwest Weather Discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Worth looking at the rain radar, you can clearly see the centre of low pressure in our region. 

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This stuff creeping into the region will be our old enemy: cold rain. In ormskirk today doing overtime, I was surprised that there was barely any settling snow here at all -not even on favoured surfaces. 

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I think people in Cumbria have been very let down today. Major incident being declared was surely red warning territory. Back to imby it's snowing and sticking. Lovely to watch @Kasim Awan tbh this is as good as it gets low elevation-wise, especially at this time of year. December snowfall featuring accumulations is not common. Evaporative cooling is definitely working it's special magic with the lack of wind.

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It is snowing here again fairly steadily but not heavy, may bode well for those further East. As others have said the radar doesn't even look like anything is over my location quite yet.

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The streamer responsible for the South Cumbria snow has moved quite far south, does anyone have any idea what it's going to? 

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Friends in Windermere are reporting over 20cm in their garden. Mega event for them. I was happy to see falling snow, I hope we can scrape a bit more.

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We have snow now pretty big flakes. 

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How ridiculous. Friends in Windermere report road closures, and people abandoning cars. Massive met office failure - 'amber warning' when it's been snowing there for 4 hours. 

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That precipitation is heading right for the North West, I think it's going to be rain here though :S

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I guess we will have to watch and wait and see. Frustrating really - I have friends up in Windermere who are reporting snow and now they're not sure whether to cancel their outdoor plans today. I am sure a lot of people would be in a similar position with it being the first Saturday of December. Whilst I appreciate the met office are in a tricky position surely that uncertainty alone is a failure. I can see them putting out their classic 'an area of snow has developed' unhelpful warnings when something has already kicked off. It should be better in this day and age. 

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They’ve gone for a warning which cuts out most of our region. Must be a tricky little feature to nail down. Unless they will put out a separate one.

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Beeb not interested. Met office will be interesting to see what they come up with. 

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I'll gladly take a few days of winter sunshine in this typically dark and grim time of year when it doesn't feel like it's even been daytime if we have 100% cloud cover. Lovely frost this morning. There's a messy area of precipitation way north of us moving south/SE, I hope it doesn't scupper any sun later on its journey near us.

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I’m sick of the cloud and rain now but it’s not bad news for these guys in a flooded field I just passed on the train in cumbria.