abruzzi spur
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Just popped back in here as part of my max of twice a day checks on stuff that isn't from properly authenticated news sites. Lots of end of days posts still going on. It's a serious situation but I really think we can all help each other. If you feel the overwhelming need to keep reading social media and posting and reposting stuff then maybe decide to take a break, go for a walk, bake a cake, teach yourself how to make bread, stuff that will give you comfort and a bit of control of your life.
It's tough, but we aren't being bombed each night. We aren't being poisoned by radiation. This isn't smallpox, nor is it Ebola. Keep up your defiance, be spirited, help your vulnerable friends, family and neighbours. Hold on to a sense of perspective and if that means turning off the news then just press that button.
Life is always tricky, it's just that at the moment it's more so.
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19 minutes ago, Onding said:
It is a flawed, incredibly basic analogy and doesn't account for several factors that define Covid-19.
Righty ho.
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4 minutes ago, Dami said:
yes, but I think in these times support is a big thing. Yes looking up 'what next' isn't doing my anxiety any good, so as a community I look for support rather than a web page telling me 'not to panic'.
I know you mean well and if you're not worried that's fine - having people to talk to and share troubles with i think helps. I'm certainly one of these types that feel better just writing down what I think.
Hi. I'm sorry if it came across as a 'don't panic' post. That wasn't my intention at all. Having suffered from anxiety and depression and on a few occasions been away from work as a result I'm conscious of how stuff you can't control can overwhelm. I am worried about where we are, but for me checking trusted news sources from time to time and avoiding bombardment on the Internet is the way to go. All the best.
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Well I'm definitely following the WHO advice to check for updates once or at most twice a day and only from trusted sources. Just on a flick through here there's so much anxiety and distress. It's a difficult situation for sure but, please, following every post, catastrophising and looking for real or imagined mistakes from all the world leading experts will make you ill and, annoyingly, less able to fight off this thing.
How many of us a few weeks back knew anything about epidemiology, about the progress of viruses, about herd immunity? Suddenly there are bedroom experts everywhere. So many shout 'do something' but won't follow the science in deciding what that 'something' should be, as long as it's 'something'.
Do your bit for relatives, friends, neighbours. Don't hide in your bunker unless indicated, be sensible about the risk, keep yourselves happy; if you're stuck inside try film, music, art, literature, cooking, exercise, not necessarily social media and 24hr news channels.
Just a thought anyway.
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1 minute ago, Azazel said:
Remdesivir and Chloroquine. Also another Japanese one I forget what it’s called.
Asahi
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4 minutes ago, emax said:
I've got a bad cough and fever, so nothing better to do................na not really, just my bad humour.
But for me personally, I'm not worried or stressed at all. Not because I think I'm immune, but because whatever will happen, will happen. We can all take reasonable personal measures to protect ourselves, but if its mine or my parents time, then so be it, its just a fact of life. If there's nothing more I can do to protect myself, then why ruin my life worrying. I'm more concerned about the future worldwide economic impacts, but thats chapter 2, we're still in chapter 1 for now.
I'm here more just for the wide spread of info as I find it interesting. Yes quite a lot of it is hearsay or inaccurate sometimes, but its still, to me any way, interesting to get a load of info on the worldwide situation, as you'd never get that in the news. The news may have one or two good snippets, and the rest is either political point scoring, or just general bashing to get views. Plus this forum, despite being up and down at times, is fairly higher up the list for reliable info than Facebook or Twitter.
Well what I posted wasn't for any particular individual. It was in response to a sense I had that some here are very anxious and I thought that the link I provided might be helpful. Glad you're tickety boo though.
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Please folks think about taking a break. I've just popped back in and it must be exhausting for the people on here reading and posting so often. The constant stress generated will make you less able to cope with the challenges ahead.
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With no apologies, I'm putting this up again. Very helpful, particularly point 3:
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Just now, Stabilo19 said:
To be fair, and without meaning to bash the experts, the UK government policy on coronavirus is being directed by the "nudge" team consisting of psychologists and sociologists. Perhaps more virologists and epidemiologists need to be consulted.
Have you got a link to substantiate that please as I'd like to understand it a bit better.
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12 minutes ago, feb1991blizzard said:
I wonder at what point do you think it has gone too low and you start buying again?
Not for me. I've just not looked at my numbers for 2 weeks. My approach is to sit tight rather than try to catch a falling knife.
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8 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:
Sir Patrick Vallance remained calm and assured when explaining to the presenters on GMB this morn, despite Ben Shepherd trying to herd him down the "Are you sure the science and policy is right?" route.
He’s impressive. Was very good under tight questioning by Justin Webb on the Today programme on Radio 4.
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1 hour ago, swebby said:
Just bumping this as i believe it is very useful.
Might be an idea for Mods to continue to bump it or pin the link somewhere?
Thanks @swebby. I've posted it twice now in the last couple of days as I thought it was extremely helpful and so far only a couple of posters have made any comment amidst the constant churn of incoming posts. Which may in itself be an indication that the advice really is needed......
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There's an understandable amount of anxiety and stress around at the moment related to CV, not least in here where there are 10s of posts an hour, some based on more science and expert evidence than others. It's really worth taking time out as a few have said. Latest WHO guidance on mental health during this situation (note in particular point 3).
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Worth keeping this in mind, point 3 in particular:
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Newsnight once again excellent tonight on this. They've been very good for weeks but are really raising their game. Intelligent questions and highly impressive and knowledgeable guests. I really recommend it at the moment.
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Just now, Daniel* said:
I always had you down as a more sophisticated tight isobar, cut from same cloth....decipher this.... poppycock !
It's an imagination of what someone might have posted on a primitive social media at the time of the Black Death that you mentioned.
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1 hour ago, Daniel* said:
It is official probably the last time we had measures like this was during Black Death? Even during Spanish flu I don’t believe countries were locked down.
Verily sires, being of fever'd brow I today took to visiting Ye Olde Shoppe and the foul crone at the counter said unto me that not half a day previous a mobbe of villeins had descended on her abode and swept the shelves of all nettle gel and extra thicke parchment for rendering a clean fundament. I shall provide a picture on completion of my humble scribble.
Truely we are bereft.
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1 hour ago, Bristle boy said:
Maybe it's the NW strain of COVID-19
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/hipster-claiming-to-have-covid-18-20200309194292
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This is all very interesting. In South Korea there is a lot more testing going on, way in excess of anywhere else. In that country the CFR is 0.7%, way lower than elsewhere. This suggests to me that in countries where the CFR is much higher they aren't picking up the minor cases as they aren't being reported let alone tested. Potentially reassuring.
https://twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1235331199805149185?s=21
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6 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
Glad to see you maintain your good form from last night ! Certainly we need a little humour to keep our spirits up.
Agreed Nick. I'm not trivialising but sometimes, I hope, a bit of humour can see us through all sorts of darkness.
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2 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
A rather troubling stat .
Current critical care beds per 100,000 of population .
Germany 29
Italy 12.5
France 11.6
UK 6.6
Reservation of beds could be linked to towel ownership rates per person:
Germany 12
Italy 6
France 5
UK 2
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39 minutes ago, Paul Faulkner said:
UK Breakdown by area:
That's not the UK as it lists no cases in Wales, Scotland or NI. It's England. It also totals only 86.
Apart from that, looks spot on!
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6 minutes ago, Daniel* said:
The point is people are entering the country no record of their health/movements. Italy is exporting a significant number of cases within Europe and globally... really it should be Italy stopping air travel in worst regions.
I am no expert @abruzzi spur but I think if you had some brain cells this is very reckless, the freedom of movement in Europe, maybe this is modern world...but this is not how you clamp this down. I don’t need to be an expert to know that. The economy is more important than peoples lives evidently.
Brain cells? Ha ha. See you back on JPW Daniel.
I always had you down as a more sophisticated tight isobar, cut from same cloth....decipher this.... poppycock !
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