The Eagle

Oh some of the posts are excellent and a good read, very informative. I was just elluding to the 'attack the post not the poster' policy which helps debate My own view is one where I honestly dont know because im not even sure GW is man-made, ive my own views on that. Your points there are interesting but I feel its all theoretical anyway until we gain a far better understanding of how the climate works. We could be talking decades really because the amount of variables that have to be applied to all models is staggering. I feel it will generally get warmer but like you, I think that we will always have intermittent harsh winters

lol this has gone down hill a bit!. On the topic, firstly I dont understand why some are so intent to discredit the OP. He has a point of view and he is entitiled to it. Personally I dont quite agree but I keep an open mind. After reading through this thread im none the wiser as to what my opinion should be on the possibility of extreme cold reaching our shores in the coming years. Just seems like 'kick the OP' while you can which stifles debate

Congratulations John, great picture

TBH id be chuffed with another below average CET. :unsure:

I agree JS about the coldest winter in ten years (but did it bring us much snow!?) but really do you honestly see an ice age about to begin???? BTW GAA dont go there, im in a mood (I thank god every day Cork is not the Capital) Then again if us Dubs froze over we would have to emigrate there - oh god!

Definatley Kippure. Last Winters CET I reckon increases the chance of another below average CET this time out. Definatley a chance

Your right, everywhere will be frozen - except Cork Im open to all suggestions but I doubt a major freeze is imminent

Got a decent amount for November here too. I was very supprised. Certainly not 3 or 4 inches though, more like an inche in total. Would love a setup like that again though admittedly it was useless for Eastern parts of England.

Two of the most spectacular years of the 20th Century and I saw neither

TWS I absoluetly agree 100%. I think the beeb, ridding themselves of pressure charts if anything shows a lack of respect for the intelligence of the viewers. Pressure charts are vital in forcasting.

Hi TWS If it was in the Guardian as SP mentioned would you take more notice? (btw im not defending The Sun, I hate that paper with a passion) What im trying to say is does it take an article to be in the Times or the Guardian for us to realise what we really already know? That forcasting is not an exact science. That its being held back by lack of funding or whatever or just generally not enough interest. That if an organistion with responsiblity comes out with a forcast for a particular season for example and it turns out to be wrong - that their probrably not going to be held to account?? Does the public even take weather forcasting all that seriously? No im not talking about that article imparticular. My point being would the MO not be better concentrating on the weather for a week ahead instead of issuing seasonal forcasts for the media to jump on?

The point is it's very rare that they actually get the forcast right 2 or 3+ days ahead. This is where the general public become sceptical because then they are told by the Met Office that 'it may be a milder then average Winter this year' when they cant even forcast 5 days ahead! Surely you see the contradiction there and how that comes across as being Mickey Mouse stuff to them. Add to that some of the stunning cock ups and tbh he does have a point. Critiscism is not a bad thing, its the only way we learn.

I must admit he has a point. Then again its the Sun. I wouldnt buy it to use as toilet paper cause its already full of sh**

Good to see a cool down in the SST's off the US Eastern sea board. Bad to see that warm pool traversing the Atlantic though

Thats what im thinking. It is literally going to throw real heat into Western Europe.........

'Valid for Wed 19 July 2006 to Fri 28 July 2006 An area of high pressure will remain close to the UK for much of the period, giving a good deal of dry and sunny weather. Weak frontal system will remain close to the far northwest, and here we will see some rain at times. During the period, pressure is expected to fall across southern areas of England and Wales, with an increasing risk of thundery showers spreading from the south. Temperatures mostly in the warm to very warm category, but locally hot across central and southern areas. Cooler in the far north.' Note they dont say the posistion of the high. Also the fact that pressure drops to the south indicates a hot unstable flow. http://www.metoffice.com/weather/europe/uk...look/index.html

You may get something more significant on Monday but as you well know by now settled, dry weather is expected after that. :blush:

Yep, probrably wont get a better outlook from them for the rest of the summer. Heat and storms

UK further outlook Valid for Wed 12 Jul 2006 to Fri 21 Jul 2006 A strong ridge of high pressure is forecast to extend northeastwards across central parts of the UK through the period of this forecast. This will maintain predominantly fine, dry conditions with prolonged sunny spells and mostly light winds although with a small but increasing threat of thunderstorms developing in southern areas later. Perhaps more changeable in the far northwest with occasional rain or showers accompanied at times by a fresh southwesterly breeze but interspersed by drier, brighter periods. Temperatures near normal to warm in the far northwest, otherwise very warm, locally hot inland with a small but significant possibility of very hot conditions developing but with refreshing sea breezes around coasts.

Nope he is not dead, retired. Excellent forcaster, educational and fun to watch

Paddy Mc Hugh Legend...... I think Rob Mc-elwee at the UKMO is good aswell.

I haven't dismissed it John. Its an intriuging argument. My knowledge of the NAD isnt that deep tbh so I cant make an imformed opinion. Certainly an interesting concept

Hi John, I cant quite put my finger on it but I feel we are in a different synoptical pattern in general over the last year. I cant really point to why yet but something is different. Anyway you seem to be leading the charge on the NAD and some are taking it to heart http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=5309 . Those fishermen always complaining Anyhow keep it up

The lightning bolt is really impressive, thanks

Another really good video. Cheers guys