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The full blocking pattern that will eventually introduce the real cold is still to setup Biggin.
Just for fun if you look in the T240 ECM you can see the colder uppers over Scandinavia and E.Europe.
in the days following with a flow from north of east they would come this way.
As we keep saying get the blocking established in the right areas then the cold will come.
Remember Arctic cold doesn`t belong here in the UK it has to be brought in and for that we have to give the new pattern chance to turn the winds into the right direction and transport that colder air..
Wrt to your last point the team are monitoring off topic/undesirable posts and will take action if necessary but anyone can press the report button if by chance the odd one slips through.
Thanks for the advice phil
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anyone fancy a pint?.....
If he turns up half cut again, ill send him round to you...
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Here you go snow pics of one of my sites in downtown Calgary
Has the earths axis changed on the first picture.?
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Yes, with time you get to know which ones to ignore!
But the promising signals for this winter are on good sound basis whether they come to fruition or not.
Thanks for that information,but could you give us a heads up, re ones to ignore, you seem to know who they are?
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UUUURRRGGHHH!!!
Yes, perhaps a green tie would have been better
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And - we seem to have gone somewhat off-topic...
True pete, tis interesting reading though,and keeps the thread ticking over.Of late this thread has had 8 hour gaps between posts......
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Given in the first half of 2004, there were 200 cases of pirates' attacks reported worldwide those 17 pirates were busy
I was thinking more about the sun and alternative theories.global average temperatures verses pirates...... Is it out on Xbox yet, ready for Christmas?
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I think I get you! It is kind of what I alluded to with the refreeze now starting at a higher latitude than before. More new cold high latitude space for the ice to refreeze, as well as the same places where the refreeze has always occurred in Autumn, which allows for more ice to form during Autumn than in previous years.
I guess we'll be in real trouble when the ocean warmth gets to such a level that it begins to slow that refreeze
What do you think will happen if we get into real trouble re refreeze?
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I guess there are a also a lot of new or inexperienced drivers who haven't driven in really snowy conditions and either slide to a stop blocking the road or worse. From my own point of view, I make less progress in my modern electronically stabilised and assisted car than I did in my old Mini's 30 years ago!. I end up turning off traction control ESS etc and try to regain control of the car from the computers just to make sensible forward progress, as modern vehicles (non 4WD) seem to want to just bring you to a halt in anything other than perfect conditions.
Yes i agree wrt drivers etc,as others have said though, you can be sued if someone slips on your pile of snow
, its got to the point now where schools close because of 1 inch of snow,just incase a child slips on the schools snow? or outside the school gates? -
But the very reason they are able to deal with such events is that they can be pretty sure they are going to happen and can justify the expense of putting all the necessary equipment, resources and staff in place. If you were in charge of a cash strapped council (as many these days are) or a UK airport, would you order £millions of new vehicles, training and salt etc + sanction the staff to carry out the work if you were less than 50% sure it would happen this Winter or any other Winter, a little bit or a lot?
It's a tough call when we have such variable weather in this country and can't be compared to other, more cold and snowy places.
All very true, but is does seem odd that a dusting of snow is able to almost shut the country down,to the annoyance of people here, and great amusement to those folk watching from Canada,Russia, etc,etc
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No Ruddy point in asking a question in this thread is there???????????? Mod continually arguing with member,tit for tat,on and on,AND mostly OFF topic.
Cant you two carry it on via PM?
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Not sure how to put this, but would less ice(locked up water vapour)increase water vapour levels,thus increasing global temps,leading to more ice loss leading to........
2,4,8.... If you see what i mean?
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Aye, but he's often no more correct than someone using chicken entrails!
Link please?
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Nothing very scientific in this but i have a good feeling, No Nina this year and just have a gut feeling, something just tells me, im not saying a bitter winter overall but i just have a feeling for a really big snow event.
Nothing wrong with a"gut feeling", probably as accurate as any LRF currently on the net or elsewhere.
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Judging from his own presentation's lack of scientific coherence (is it Groucho Marx or Marty Feldman, he reminds me of?) 'crackpot' is what comes to mind...
now now pete, no name calling please. you know the rules.
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Not yet,he wont let me
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Yes. there was an answer from BFTV and myself a few posts ago and the separate extra rules for this part of the climate forum are here. http://forum.netweat...ion=rules&f=105
These rules are enforced rigidly.
Thanks for the reply, but still cant see where it says in the rules that you "must provide a link to reseach,papers etc"
Yor refered to a post by BFTV, When he said" perceived UNWRITTEN set of rules"
Are we govened by the written rules, or the ones that someone can perceive?
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Sorry am a bit confused here, having just read the "Important points prior to posting in this part of the forum" i could not find where it says" you must provide a link to research,papers/and websites that support their take on climate change"
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Many thanks.
Sorry , any chance of an answer ?
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This is where some people get it wrong. This is an open forum for everyone to voice an opinion and express their views provided they can provide a link to research, papers, and websites that support their take on climate change.
As many of our long time posters will verify, we don't accept personal opinion without the link to something regarded as proof.
Many thanks.
Sorry am a bit confused here, having just read the "Important points prior to posting in this part of the forum" i could not find where it says" you must provide a link to research,papers/and websites that support their take on climate change"
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Many thanks.
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Many people also found it hard to believe that 'we' were responsible for the ozone hole!
My answer to this general point is always to consider some of the other impacts we've had on the planet - replacing forests by monocultures of plants that suit us, damming rivers to create new lakes, (probably) causing the extinction of many species of megafauna - and the fact the we now live in what are mostly artificially engineered surroundings. When you think about some of these impacts and then the fact that we are measurably altering the composition of the atmosphere, it's not so difficult to imagine that we might also, ultimately, be responsible for the decline in the sea ice.
Also, because something has happened before, it doesn't necessarily mean that when it happens again the cause is the same!
Yes i remember the ozone hole thing,we were making it bigger and bigger by using spray on tans or oven cleaners, or being a fan of Chelsea Football Club.
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OK at least i know what you were thinking.If you had said that in your earlier post then it would have saved me asking.
WRT predictions on weather patterns then it`s certainly becoming a hot topic as we are in a new situation with the lowest Summer Ice levels recorded in recent times and i think the Met are simply putting some ideas out there.
There`s no doubt about Arctic Warming and at some point the changing differences in the thermal gradients between the Arctic and latitudes further South may well impact on Hemispheric Upper air patterns.
yes sorry about that.
But this is where the public lose interest in GW , when the METO make such sweeping and wrong predictions, also the METO had at their disposal, at the time the biggest,best super computer which at the time obviously failed to link continued ice loss to changing differences in the thermal gradiant, and at that time gave the wrong prediction.
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Come on then share the joke.
I must be missing something.
10 years ago the MET OFFICE told US, because of global warming we will have hotter, dryer summers,and milder wetter winters(with the ice declining at this point)
Now we get from the MET OFFICE, because of the lack of ice we may get colder winters and wetter summers, i await their next prediction.................
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The melt making news on the BBC website. http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-19496674
The last paragraph.
LOL.
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I noticed a couple of weeks or so ago, finishing work at 8pm each night and needing the car headlights on. Not looking forward to the cold, wet dark winter nights at all
WHAT!! With those lips.....
I was thinking more about the sun and alternative theories.
, its got to the point now where schools close because of 1 inch of snow,just incase a child slips on the schools snow? or outside the school gates?
. Soon though
Model Output Discussion - 28th November
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