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11 minutes ago, Harsh Climate said:
Latest fax chart has convergence zone further south as well. Could be a lot of snow in this area!
I think the further south the better now, give more chance of catching showers from the north east, as there will be a small dry zone just north of this convergence zone..
Hmmm, that’s a lot further south! That isn’t great for the more northern parts of South Yorkshire, West and North Yorks. No guarantee they’ve got it correct but slightly concerning, and definitely against the models. Not too much longer to wait to see which is right though!
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Here is a comparison of the snow culm for Euro4 0z, 6z and 12z. They aren’t a direct comparison as they are always for T+54. Slight variations in position, width of deepest snow and depths, but all look good!
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Euro4 12z now out. A selection of precip charts and the culm snow cover by the end of the run (Tuesday 19.00, so earlier than GEM).
Overall highest totals look slightly further South compared to GEM, but a good wide area and some really big totals in there! Will post a comparison to 6z run shortly.
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16 minutes ago, Kathryn Atkin said:
I work at an FE College and it was always the waiting game - we would check what the other colleges were doing - the ones on the outskirts closed first, us in the middle of the city at lower levels had to wait until all the others shut by which time, the roads would be shocking and getting home was a nightmare. Lot to be said for working from home
In the snow in January, the school where my daughter works opened and so did the school where my sons girlfriend works. They both ended up closing mid-morning but that point is was too late. Both had to walk home having abandoned their cars, with my daughter walking 4 miles taking kids and my sons girlfriend having to walk 10 miles to get home!
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1 minute ago, The PIT said:
Schools in those days generally stayed open as well. Ours only closed when the Snow drifted across the road blocking the teachers into the car park. As soon as that happened off home we went. I would also say 78/79 was one the few years where you had a spring melt. Remember the snow melting from our house but if I walked up to the local park it was till there. 10C at home probably 4C over the melting snow. There was also very cold blizzard conditions in March as well in that year.
I have similar memories of school remaining open until absolutely necessary to close due to very deep snow and drifts, also in the ‘70’s.
I think one of the big differences between now and then was vast majority of kids were really local and within easy walking distance and it was the same for teachers or at least it was at my junior school.
My daughter is a primary school teacher and the school where she works has lots of the kids travel in by car as they aren’t within walking distance and some of the teachers drive in 30 or 40 miles and one from Manchester! Therefore even if kids can get to school, they don’t always have the right number of teachers able to get in to meet safety requirements and pupil-teacher ratio requirements.
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24 minutes ago, SouthYorks said:
GEM 12z, which was the first to pick up the Baltic/Humber streamer last week, is a big upgrade for tomorrow, Tuesday and Wednesday with just about all parts of our region getting in on the game at some point over the next 3 days! Let’s just hope it’s right!
And here is the GEM 12z snow accumulation chart for 7am Wednesday! Not too shabby! I think if it turns out like this I would think most people in our region will be happy!
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5 minutes ago, sorepaw1 said:
Anyone on here from North Yorkshire i live at Goathland not far from Pickering not seen many poster's from North Yorkshire
Only very very light snow flurries here.
Ah, I understand now why you have the winter tyres on your AWD. Goathland lovely village, but not great roads in or out at either end!
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1 minute ago, Craigers said:
MASSIVE UPGRADE. MOVED NORTH AND WIDENS.
Yep, that’s my view as well! Looking forward to seeing what the Euro4 shows later.
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GEM 12z, which was the first to pick up the Baltic/Humber streamer last week, is a big upgrade for tomorrow, Tuesday and Wednesday with just about all parts of our region getting in on the game at some point over the next 3 days! Let’s just hope it’s right!
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5 minutes ago, Steel City Skies said:
Paul Hudson with the banter
Was an Amber warning issued!?!?!?
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Just now, LeeSnowFan said:
cough barnsley too
My gut feeling from todays runs is that we will probably get around 10cm, putting us just north of the highest totals. Of course, 10cm not to be sneezed at given the last few years! All still to play for and likely the streamer will waver about more than obvious from the model output, so we may see more in Barnsley than I’m currently suggesting. Here is hoping!
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45 minutes ago, Craigers said:
Thanks to @Paul this has proven my thoughts. This has trended a tad north too with this mornings updates.
Interesting given all the other model seem to have shifted it south. I’ve only just had time to review all the models (I was on Sunday dinner duty today! ), but for me this stands out on it’s own with it’s slight northerly adjustment. Euro4, GEM, Arpege all shifted it south slightly. My punt yesterday was that Sheffield, Rotherham, Chesterfield would be the sweet spot and I still think that will be the case although maybe even a touch south of that. 12z now running so let’s see what they give us.
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1 hour ago, Snowjokes92 said:
It does looks a fraction lower for depths in south of region, but if you look closer evidence for streams of showers and even those arounds Leeds, who looked to miss out more. Looks good from harrogate all the way southwards! Still think a lot more will fall. They are always under done right up to the event.
Yep, agreed. I guess I’m being a bit greedy having already had several decent falls of 8-10cm this year, so I’m now hoping for something approaching 20cm. From an IMBY perspective I was a bit disappointed by the shift south and the narrowing of the band.
There is no doubt the models don’t have an exact handle on this yet, other than the principle of the streamer, and location will only become apparent tomorrow. Let’s hope we all get in on the action and we see some significant snow right across the region!
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Not to be taken at face value, but a bit of a downgrade on Euro4 from last nights 0z to this mornings 6z for snow depths and a narrower band across Yorkshire from the streamer. Let’s hope for upgrades in 12z.
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1 minute ago, Tinker Bell said:
Are these for tomorrow?
First one is 11am today, second one 3am Monday.
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7 minutes ago, LeeSnowFan said:
Streamers anyone
That accumulation map is an upgrade compared to the one Kasim posted last night! It covers id wider area and has greater depth!
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We’ve had few flakes in the air on and off for the last couple of hours but nothing much getting very far inland before fizzling out. Radar does look good though and showers are clearly intensifying and as @Craigers has shown above they appear to be heading for South Yorkshire!
Euro4 shows showers today with greatest intensity up until lunchtime then weakening as the afternoon progresses. The real action then starts in the early hours of Monday when the Baltic/Humber streamer sets up
Meanwhile we have our regular squirrel visitor to the garden stocking up!
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8 hours ago, farmans said:
An Interesting tweet from BBC Wales weatherman Derek. Interesting graphic explaining the ‘Baltic streamer’ .... heading for Yorkshire!
First posted about this on Thursday .
GEM has been absolutely consistent with this throughout all its runs since. Here is is again on its latest run. Same time frame as well, starting 7am Monday and still impacting our region 48 hours later.
The only difference today is that is has the streamer heading south into Norfolk during Wednesday, instead of North later that day.
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Coming much heavier now even though radar only light blue. Settling on garage roof and lawns now.
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Light snow in Barnsley, but only enough so far to settle on the car. Heavier snow is passing to the north of here. Looking at showers to ENE for something a bit heavier later.
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Just now, Kasim Awan said:
Stronger streamer development on Euro4. 10-30cm zone quite widespread. Looking promising.
No words!
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1 minute ago, blizzard81 said:
Ooooh! I do like the updated fax charts.
Perfect for South Yorkshire! @Craigers Matches to your earlier post re convergence zone. This fax chart is almost identical in where it shows it!!
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6 minutes ago, Scott Ingham said:
Euro 4 now picking up on a possible streamer tomorrow never mind monday.
Could be a short term development that can happen!
And the streamer on Monday sets up about 5 hours earlier than previously forecast!
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Wet snow now in Redbrook, Barnsley. As can be seen from the CCTV the new snow is arriving before the old pile of snow from Tuesday has completely gone from the lawn!
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Yep, agreed and the fact it’s against all the models we can see is a bit odd.
Exeter can either see something different on their models or the guy who put it together didn’t have his specs on and mistook the Wash for the Humber!