This is my first post, but I have been reading the forum for quite some time, most of it I find very interesting but I do wonder if some of you ever bother to read the post you are answering or you just assume because its from this or that person they haven't got a clue so just humour them, like you S F, Jethro said and I quote, The climate is warming; I agree , but in your seemingly arrogant way you choose to ignore it and then go on, imo, to patronise them.