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After being concerned and wishing it could have been held in China earlier I'm now resigned to the inevitable truth it cannot be stopped but fairly simple personal measures make more difference than anything else
Avoiding crowds and 'arms lengthing' as much as possible, and imagine surfaces others have touched have got sticky dog poo on them will be far more effective than widespread shutdowns that cannot be maintained for long enough anyway.
In a couple of years time it will probably seem similar to (rather forgotten) Hong Kong flu in 1968, only hopefully a vaccine will be available later this year
What did we do then? Just got on with things and practiced basic hygiene as recommended now.
The major difference now is media driven hysteria like never before.
1968 flu pandemic - Wikipedia
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It reminds me a lot of the F&M outbreak - or rather one-step-too-late official attempts to deal with it do.
That resulted in total lockdown + no income here for more than six months (but we weren't culled due to my pre-emptive actions)-
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51 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:
Iran have reported 205 new cases and 9 new deaths
Total cases 593 and 43 deaths
I have seen a suggestion that Iranian high deaths are due to strong steroids being used inappropriately ( DIY treatment) as they can be bought over the counter.
That's certainly preferable to a new more deadly strain.
There was a comment that they were seeing subtle genetic differences in the virus among UK cases already.
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26 minutes ago, nick sussex said:
The situation there was made much worse by that religious sect . Most cases in South Korea are within that .
I don't see that being a lot different from any number of events here.
Perhaps larger sporting events will be suspended at least to spectators after this weekend (e.g. football league)
But concert halls etc must be pretty high risk.
Switzerland banned any event with over 1000 people seems sensible-
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You would have expected people to be doing daily blog or youtube from their mobile while in isolation.
No doubt they have in Chinese but even youtube is blocked there.-
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20 minutes ago, Wiltshire_snow_lover said:
South Korea has urged its citizens to stay indoors this weekend and warned of a "critical moment" in the coronavirus battle, while the global risk has been raised to the highest level.
The country recorded its biggest daily jump in cases and is the worst-hit by the outbreak after China.
The 594 cases in the last 24 hours have taken its tally to 2,931.
Coronavirus: Global risk raised to highest level as more countries affected
NEWS.SKY.COMSouth Korea is the worst-hit by the outbreak after China and the 594 cases in the last 24 hours have taken its tally to 2,931.I would be surprised if we aren't in the same boat as early as mid-March
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I think we can forget about heat killing it at least UK style 'heat' of about 20C.
UV and drying out in the sun/wind is more promising but only on surfaces which are exposed - more or less outside.
Person to person can't make much difference except we are somewhat more likely to be outside longer, or at least in a well ventilated room.-
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It's been quite a cover here but very wet, no doubt at least 4" higher up
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10 hours ago, lottiekent said:
The company I used to work at has asked around 30 people not to come into work for the next few days as a team member has been tested for coronavirus.
He travelled from Australia and had a wait in Taiwan airport and started feeling ill last week (sore throat, temp) and was sent home and told to call 111. They tested him late last week and expect to know the results in a day or two.
Not sure what use asking the team members not to come in will do? He’s been sitting in close proximity to them for almost a fortnight, using the same toilets, canteen, lifts etc - the office is a breeding ground at the best of time’s and there’s around 1,000 people in there on a good day.My partner (works on a different floor), many ex-team members (floor I used to work on and the same as the suspected patient) and friends work there so I’m very interested in where this goes!
They are testing 100s daily and as you know only a handful of positives.
One of the problems is feeling generally unwell with a temperature is not a very specific symptom-
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Just now, fujita5 said:
I see the problem now, I've read a couple of articles previously and now I have to pay to view any others. Another account is required methinks....
Or use Chrome Incognito
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78mm for he month here is 20mm more than average, 31mm since this time yesterday.
We have had three really nasty squall line events causing mini-flash floods with about 5mm in less than 5 minutes onto already waterlogged ground.
A particular problem here is a large stone culvert with a grid to stop debris going down, when it's windy a lot of fine twiggy debris ends up in the water and will block the grid in minutes if one of the flashes come down increasing the already high flow by 10x - so even daily clearing is not enough.
I was out raking it off last night about 11pm and it was still nearly blocked again this morning-
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4 hours ago, Thundershine said:
February is turning into a very wet month here, already 20% above the entire month's normal average, add that to the record wet October and November. I am not impressed.
I had to check here, we're on 46mm and Feb average is only 55mm so will easily pass that this weekend.
Next week looks drier though so unlikely to be particularly remarkable.
January meanwhile was well below half normal here. -
There's a good chance it's just burning rubbish because normal collections have been suspended.
A lot of medical equipment masks gowns are all to get rid off daily.
While the death rate is almost certainly much higher than figures suggest they aren't burning bodies in the open like some have suggested.
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33 minutes ago, booferking said:
I'm meant to fly out to Philippines through Singapore with wife and 3 young kids for a 2 week vacation i really dont know what to do at the minute I'm 70/30 against going. What would you do?
Someone I know is back from similar tomorrow (but on his own) it will be interesting to see how it was, but he's staying home until the end of next week so far as possible.
The Philippines have had few cases so far but Singapore Airport and being on a plane generally would be worrying, especially with kids who you can't watch every minute. Especially basc stuff like not touching face after inadvertently touching other surfaces.-
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Several gusts well over 60mph overnight.
Any showers that make it seem rather light and blow through in a couple of minutes. -
I thought the new-think blocking waterways with sticks was going to make a huge difference?
Did it still run downhill when it rained heavily? -
Compare that to our earlier flight with bus drivers totally unprotected.
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10 hours ago, Bristle boy said:
Update; maybe encouraging signs showing?
More than 34,800 people have been infected with the new coronavirus worldwide, the vast majority in China.
There have been 723 deaths in China and one death abroad, in the Philippines.
Of the 34,598 people infected within China, WHO Director General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said almost 25,000 are in Hubei Province - the region where the outbreak was first reported, which has since become the epicentre of the virus.
Dr Tedros said that the virus is still concentrated in Hubei, and that over the last four days there appeared to have been a slight stabilisation in the number of cases.
However, he said it was still too early to say whether or not the virus has plateaued, as epidemics can often slow down before accelerating again.
But he added that the slow-down was "an opportunity" for them to work to contain the virus.
The wuflu site graph now shows a marked decline in new infections which is due to the draconian action taken in China.
However this really is early days.
The consequences of being isolated in the new military hospital(s) are so devastating that there is huge incentive to not come forward if infected.
Other hotspots are inevitably going to progress in a very difficult way to control.
WuFlu.live
WUFLU.LIVEReal-time updates on infections, deaths & recoveries from the Wuhan Coronavrius + Live Streams-
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42 minutes ago, swebby said:
I am curious to see a link for this theory, if it is not coming from a reputable scientific/medical source i'd take it with an extremely large pinch of salt. Viruses do not distinguish between racial groups, far as a virus is concerned, it only asks if you are human or not.
It's not the racial groups it's a subtle difference in the make up of proteins in the airways, to which the virus attaches itself
From about 3:20 in this video he covers it.-
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52 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:
Ok, but why hasnt it taken off, outside China? 2 months since first case identified; the extent of global travel by plane, day in day out, confined space (much more confined than a cruise ship). This is what i find puzzling.
Give it time, we still aren't taking nearly enough precautions with people coming back from the far east given no checks whatsoever other than opportunity to pick up an info leaflet maybe.
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I wish people would stop comparing it to flu, it's closer to the seriousness of SARs.
That's why the Chinese are taking such draconian action even though it's probably too late since they preferred to arrest anyone mentioning it for the first month.
Flu is a known risk and yes it kills people in large numbers worldwide but if the nCOV really takes off it's a huge additional risk the likes of which hasn't been seen in a hundred years.
I saw even the BBC were playing this dangerous game this morning-
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42 minutes ago, Bristle boy said:
Not just the Chinese numbers that remain puzzling. Just a handful of known cases outside China. It has been around since mid December and the huge amount of global travel, global spread of Chinese travelling, at colleges, etc, who have been home, and then back to other countries over last 6-8 weeks. Yes, it has a long incubation period, but one would've expected a huge spike by now, outside of China.
There is a theory that it is more easily spread and more deadly to Asian ethnicities due a to a genetic difference in a certain protein in the lungs.
That doesn't explain the limited spread in adjacent countries though, because it can't be more dangerous to the Chinese only surely.-
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3 hours ago, Snipper said:
Seems that in China cases are flattening out.
Big caveat is are the reported cases and deaths actually correct for China?
No that's due to the roughly hourly updates - but the graph shows daily points - the last point creeps up each day.
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