[North West England Cold Spell Discussion 2]

Looks like a channel low for 22/12 onwards moving north east. Would we up here get anything of that??

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Well im in work in Irlam. Felt cold on the way in just been out for a ciggy and it actually felt abit colder??? Im see clouds rolling in from the west coast, no doubt these will warm the temps abit.

Maybe clutching at straws here but if that front doesnt arrive untill 18:00 temps might possibly be low enough for snow??

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LOL your kidding?? In the space of a day i have gone from snow today to sleet/rain today and now sunday doesnt look like ill get anything i give up damn you weather gods

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You think snow wont reach manchester tomorrow?

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Well were always on the wrong side of everything in this region Best of it is that, even when we have everything in the right place for snow we STILL end up with sleet. Oh well so its going to sleet melt what snow we have and then when and if the snow arrives it wont settle due to the ground being to wet. Ifr i could move out of this country i would...this place is so full of s*&t.

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Err BBC weather got no snow or rain for sunday instead its saturday????

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Not at all mate, all comments are welcome. However I am pretty confidant becuase if you take my earlier short range forcasts for yesterdays snow showers penetrating west which turned out right even though the likes of IB said they wouldnt and hopefully the forcast i made for tommorrow will turn out as written too. Things can definatly change at short notice though for the good or the bad, we shall see .

Uhm sorry for blowing my own trumpet there btw ! and yes we shouldnt really rule out the overall chances for cheshire

Would you agree that as the winds shift to NW those showers would also be pushed further eastwards?

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Now that for Sat is looking rather tasty

Plus sunday if the winds play ball might well see that rain pushed further inland

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12z rolling and u can see that warm sector in scotland T-24.

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Thats what i was trying to get at before surely with temps dropping like they are there going to be quite low come the morning and i would have though cold enough to cool the warm sector???

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Looking at the Fax for Saturday(36hr) the 528 line skirts the length of eastern ireland from north to south so its well west of us, by 48 hrs its down over the South west of the uk, by 60hrs its into southern france and doesnt return to our shores until the 84hr mark.

Taking this into account i would have though we wopuld be in quite a good position unless there somthing im missing?

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Hmm if this warm sector does effect us then i would have thought it would have been cold enough for us to get through it without much thawing of what we have already??

If it does melt then theres the issue of the ground being too wet for snow to settle on sunday.

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Thanks for the reply Happy D Im just hoping that there is no warm sectors. Dont know where the warm air would come from anyway.

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SO further east you are the better for snow. So for me being in dukinfield at the foot of the pennines i could be in the sweet spot. Im not that experienced to know all of this im just putting bits of info together but the nagging question for me is just how mch snow should we be expecting??

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I know this might be considered of topic but i wanted the more experienced on here to answered and everyone reads this thread. If we take the GFS 06z and ECM outputs would you say the LOW moving down from the north this weekend will give a high ammount of snow fall for the NW region and Scotland??

There also doesnt seem to be much talk of this low on here too. I realise that the SE has had a pasting but it seems everyone is now looking to the SW for the mild weather to come in/ or not and ignoring this very good potential for the north.

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So whats the chances for some heavy snow for the manchester area over the weekend then?

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NE thread talk of it starting to sink south anyone else noticed that?

Hey HD Ashton as in the A-U-L just down the road from me

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Hi Stephen & fellow NW-ers. Back on here for another winter's snow-hoping for the NW. Been following the thread. Here in St Annes we've had a v light covering earlier this eve from a couple of showers, butnow just plain cold with a clear view of the stars. What I've got my eye on is the possibility of a battlezone as milder air tries to push in round Christmas, hopefully with the cold winning out and us lot getting the white results.

Sat/Sun/Mon and maybe Tues might tunr out good for us too mate

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Just had a read of the south east thread. It gone nuts in there but alot of them are saying its warmed up and beggining to melt. Im sorry...i shouldnt....but.....

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No, the one before then at around T108. T180 might as well be a month away such is the uncertainty of this set-up.

Oh thats the one that has come all the way from the north has a poke and a sniff about to our west bit like its had too much and then shuttles off back up north later in the run. Never seen anything like it before.

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It's a very complex set-up next week, and one which is unprecedented since people have been discussing the NWP on the internet in the UK.

If the first Low is there on Tuesday, then whilst it could bring less cold air to the South, it can't really make inroads too far North - look at the upper circulation - there is no where for it to go other than back South or decline in situ. The more intense any PPN, the greater this being of snow as it hits the entrenched cold air.

Any breakdown will be to 'less cold' rather than mild until any new signals are picked up on next week. But this is a difficult time for the models and by any standard a rarefied set-up.

I take it your talking about the low thats comming from the SW at T-177/180?

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T-63 Low looks to be more east

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GP, would you say then that the breakdown wont be too mild and will generally be on the cool side up to new year?? Then january has the potential to become alot colder than it is now?

[North West England Cold Spell Discussion 2]

Well its been falling again in Dukinfield for past 10 min.

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Any One seen the micheal fish forecast? All i will say is bring it!!!!