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Snow Trek
**Scene One***
Captain Kirk: "Scotty we need more power to the Cumbrian snow sheild"
Scotty: "She canny take it Captain the engines will blow"
Captain Kirk: "For God's sake man I need more power to them shields"
Spock:"Dont worry Scotty I have just put in a new dilithium crystal so it work work fine now"
Scotty: "Thanks Spock Cumbria snow shield now at 100%"
Captain Kirk: "Well done Scotty it almost snowed in Penrith at one stage"
**Scene ends**
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OK cheers, thought I was missing something on the models! Slight upgrade if anything as the thicknesses now look favourable until Sunday.
Yes I was referring to the bbc forecast which was a downgrade from last night, can I ask two things of someone...
1. Can someone post a link to the favourble charts mentioned above and
2. Excuse me for being a nimby and a majority of one, but do people think tonight's snow showers will make it over th Pennines to east cumbria?
I am fed up with being the only person in th UK with a green lawn.
Cheers, Andy
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Both the national and regional forecasts seemed to be somewhat of a downgrade.
Yes, shower activity predicted to be less this morning particulary west of the Pennines.
Oh well I could always cut the grass
Andy -
Not sure if I belong in this thread as Penrith is to the west of the Pennines but is in the far north of England.
After missing the frontal snow tomorrow I am hoping to cash in on some North sea activity on Saturday, despite being west of the Pennines East Cumbria often has potent snow showers from the east if the cold is deep enough.
10cms-15cms was obtained in January and December 2010 on an easterly, small beer compared to places further east but it was very welcome here.
On 15th Fenruary 1979 Penrith recorded 30cms of snow in 24 hours from a strong easterly flow, God knows what it was like in Durham!
Nick, I wouldnt worry about the dewpoints, surface temperatures will be low enough unless you live right on the coast despite the long sea track.
More snow for you, you lucky bugger
Andy
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I think you are joking? The models very clearly show snow amounts varying from 2-10cm across the country, away from Wales and west Midlands where totals could be in the region of 10-20cm. Way more over hills.
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Nationwide event I think.
Sorry Chris,
I hadnt seem the updated NAE which is actually better for Nationwide snow than this morning.
We shall see, but I agree its looking better for us Northerners than it was earlier today.
Andy
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Good luck with it guys the front just cleared penrith at it was all rain despite temperature near freezing.
Andy
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Light/moderate snow here in Penrith since 11am has left a dusting.
Not sure what tonight will bring!
Andy
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The MetO is now including Cumbria for the snow threat tomorrow evening.
One to watch.
Andy
Im not expecting much as we go in xmas, also tuesday night was a real let down with rain
.Hi,
Do you have any lying snow in Carlisle?
Where abouts in Carlisle are you?
Cheers,
Andy
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I dont care what the bookies say, to me if the ground is half or more covered with snow at 9am on Christmas Morning then its a white Christmas.
My 9cms complete cover tomorrow morning certainly qualifies
Andy
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Frequent moderate snow showers in Penrith this evening adding to the 6cms lying, hopefully that streamer will continue for a while yet.
No reports from that endless streamer North of Carlisle although its moved south in the last two hours and given some heavy snow in the City.
The area to the North of Carlisle has few areas of population, hence the lack of reports.
Andy
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Yes, quite absurd lows over the snowfields. The next few nights appear to offer lows of similar temp, possible -f on the cards??
Hi Hail Sezier,
Off topic.
I am a long life Joy Division fan but my favourites are:
1. Decades
2. Heart & Soul
3. Atmosphere
4. LOve Will Tear Us Apart
5. Isolation.
As you can see I am a bit of a 'Closer' fan.
30 years on and I still cant forget Joy Division.
Andy
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Yes, quite absurd lows over the snowfields. The next few nights appear to offer lows of similar temp, possible -f on the cards??
Plenty of cold weather here but no snow!
Andy
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Same here. A band of signifcant snow is set to affect the south and midlands again tomorrow - we will miss out.
I share your pain <_<
Light snow here but the front is fragmenting quickly so looks like another disappointment.
I am not going to watch TV in next 48 hours because I just couldnt stand hours of 'blizzard reports from around the UK' apart from the North West of course.
Today should have been a sure bet for us with an active front coming in from the west, if it was mild this front would bring 30mm of rain but because its cold enough for snow its dying on its feet <_<
Andy
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finally snowing christ how long did that take? small to medium sized flakes coming down hopefully that heavier stuff out there wont hit too soon, so that temps can cool down a lot more
Reports of snow on the Cumbrian Coast now so it looks like temperature isnt a problem and any precipitation will be of snow.
However, whether the precipitation reaches us at all remains to be seen.
Andy
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The radar usually tells the truth.
Meto now warning of up to 10cm for SW Scotland.
Mark
Teesdale,Co Durham
I hope you are right Mark, the MetO graphics just dont match the radar or even what the presenters are saying!
It could drive you to drink :lol:
Andy
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Most of the snow has thawed here, there's the odd patch here and there, and quite a lot still on a neighbours shed which is always in the shade lol
I'm hoping temperatures don't rise too much if/when we do get any precipitation coming our way from the rain band that's coming in from the west now. It appears to be heading over Northern Ireland and set for Scotland, we might be too far south to get anything decent.
The latest graphics on News24 show the snow fragmenting quickly across the North West with most of the snow going through the Midlands
Yet the radar shows the snow heading straight for us.
I give up :lol:
Andy
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i've a feeling this is our last good chance for a dumping this winter..cant see any of the snow from the south reaching this far north, but you never know..i think it's either today for this region or never..dew points are holding steady so far this morning which is a good positive sign along with the temp which hasnt shifted at all..good conditions but i just hope that is snow out there on the Irish sea, number of places that cloud is over, is not showing any snow apart from armargh
This is my take on this for this evening.
The band of snow moving in from the west will affect most of the North West with the best snowfall in the Lake District, East Lancashire and Manchester areas, outside these areas there are two dangers.
In my own part of East Cumbria the danger is that the snow will fragment across the Lake District mountains and be patchy, the other problem is for coastal areas of the Region where snow might struggle to settle at sea level so places like Blackpool could be marginal, however, even a bit of altitude or distance from the sea will reduce this risk so inland parts of Merseyside and Lancashire should do O.K.
If I had to pick a spot tonight for the best snow it would be the South Lakes (Winderemere area), East Lancashire and North/East Manchester.
Andy
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Welcome Andy. There's few from the Eden Valley in here.
Mark
Teesdale,Co Durham
Thanks Mark,
Viewing the North West thread on NW this week has kept be sane because the pain of repeatedly missing the snow is shared
My family in Birmingham have had 4 seperate snowfalls this week with another expected tonight and yet another on Monday night, hopfully this evening will at least turn my lawn white but I have a nagging doubt and it could all go wrong.
Andy
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actually according to the latest forecast and latest nw radar your in the direct firing line. for us slightly further south the band of intensive snow is certainly loosing its intensity..bbc forecast on news 24 now 856am they definately down playing day time snow compared to the BBCi forecast at 830am, who knows thats maybe a good thing as temps will be that much lower..but i think some definate snow coming through in the next couple of hours.
Hi Guys,
This is my first post on NW and hopefully this evening will deliver for the North West after the most frustrating week I have ever know.
Its now or never for the North West.
Fingers crossed.
Andy
Andy
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Far North of England Regional Discussion - January 19th 2013>
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Can someone with a good knowledge of meteorology answer a question for me.
Today snow showers moving across from the east died as they entered the Eden Valley in east Cumbria, this isnt surprising as the air would descend as it came off the Pennines killing the showers convection.
This sometimes happens in easterly situations.
However, sometimes snow showers from the east cross into Cumbria even reaching the west coast without any loss of intensity. This happened frequently in January 2010 and December 2010 and also February 2009.
So what makes the difference?
I have studied many synoptic charts but similar set ups can have very different results in respect of snow showers surviving the Pennine crossing.
If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them.....Cheers,
Andy