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Very interesting to see what's happening with these currently, both positive during early October (warm spell in the UK).
So, do you think the AO & NAO will remain negative throughout this winter?
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Well november average is
6.9C 71-00 average
I'm going for 6.2 slightly below.
Interesting that, here in Durham, we've been above average in the last 9 years!
I'm going for a very much average 6.7C.
Also, this retains the fact that I always guess the CET more than 5 days early!
EDIT: I'll keep my 6.7C guess.
The 1961-90 average is 6.5C
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Hi IF.
For just a little bit more money you could get a LaCrosse WS2350. I used to have the older version (WS2300) and it was excellent, very little trouble with it at all, only prob was the sensors weren't quite up to the severe weather we get up here. It works well with Weather Display which is an excellent piece of software.
If you could afford a bit more (i.e. about £350) the UK Weather Shop is doing a good deal on the Oregon Scientific WMR200X where you get two extra sensors free (a temp/humid sensor and a solar sensor). Thats what I have now and again its a good station. Also, having Weather Display software I was able to go from one station to another no problem, just involved changing the station type in the WD setup.
Hope that helps
I'd say £350 is out of my price-range ATM, but that La Crosse looks quite good. I'd like to stick around with Oregon for a bit, but it's certainly #1 currently.
EDIT: In fact, I've made my mind. I'll have the WMR80, as it has pretty much everything I need, pressure, dew point, heat index, temp., humidity, forecast, wind stats etc.
I'd of loved the WMR200, but it is unfortunately on the rather expensive side. Decision made
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1.9C
-0.2C Dew Point
Calm with a slight SW'ly
1026.8mb
Scattered Clouds
Low of -1.4C at 07:10. First Air Frost since May 12th, lowest temperature since March 11th.
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Very nice to see the first SOUTHERN Sweden falls, can imagine that is quite rare for this time of the year. Good gains everywhere else and impressed with ice build-up so far.
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Some snow photos taken in South Wales last winter.
Don’t let the amount of snow, or the fact the photos are labelled Avoriaz France March 2009 fool you.
Ahahahaha. Very nice!
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The ten-year averages in this location have shown a marked increase from the 1990s to the 2000s with the exception of March which is marginally cooler. My records begin in 1982 so the 80s are incomplete, however these are also rather cooler than the 90s, so a clear warming trend:
Month Average (80s/90s/00s) (1971-2000 in brackets)
JAN: 3.5 / 4.3 / 5.2 (4.2)
FEB: 2.8 / 5.0 / 5.3 (4.6)
MAR: 5.2 / 6.9 / 6.8 (6.5)
APR: 7.1 / 8.4 / 9.2 (8.2)
MAY: 10.5 / 11.3 / 12.2 (11.4)
JUN: 13.8 / 14.0 / 15.3 (14.2)
JUL: 16.4 / 16.7 / 17.0 (16.7)
AUG: 15.6 / 16.7 / 17.2 (16.6)
SEP: 13.5 / 13.7 / 14.9 (14.3)
OCT: 10.5 / 10.4 / 11.5 (10.8]
NOV: 6.5 / 7.1 / 7.5 (7.0)
DEC: 5.4 / 4.4 / 4.8 (5.1)
ANN: 9.2 / 9.9 / 10.6 (10.0)
(1980s covers period June 1982 - December 1989)
Also interesting about these figures is the mean minima has warmed by 0.9C between the '80s' and '00' decadal averages, yet the mean maxima by 1.8C in the same period.
Interesting note about March, it was only just marginally warmer here in the last 10 years than before.
The fact that maxima have gone up more than minima, would indicate increased sunlight (and clearness) as minima of course are usually cooler under clear skies and maxima are warmer. Wouldn't it?
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Norwich has dodged most of the showers today, but there was definitely soft hail in one of the showers this morning.
Isn't soft hail classed as graupel?
EDIT: According to wiki it is. Look at the description at the top.
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Of course, temperatures have slowly been rising in the last few decades, but are there months that buck the trend?
Example:
December - 1961-1990 (3.9C)
December - 1971-2000 (4.3C)
December - 2001-2009 (4.1C)
Here are some stats from Durham Observatory, showing that, December has been cooler in the last decade, than in the period between 1971-2000. Anything below 2.5C as the mean for this December would mean that on a whole, this decade's December's have been as cold (or even colder) than the 61-90 period.
Another one:
October - 1961-1990 (9.8C)
October - 1971-2000 (9.5C)
Of course, the temperatures in October are also reflected in the CET average, with 71-00 also being cooler.
May - 1961-1990 (9.9C)
May - 1971-2000 (9.9C)
May, is an oddity, a summer month which has the same average.
However, there are some months with obvious warming trends.
November - 1961-1990 (5.7C)
November - 1971-2000 (6.0C)
November - 2001-2009 (7.2C!)
Do you keep any records of your temperatures, or have records nearby? Do you have months that buck the trend?
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Not anywhere near what we expected, a high low (!) of 3.7C here, 4.6C currently, noticeable ground frost in the hills around here though.
Also, OON, sometimes when I try to visit your website, it just won't let me. Any reasons as to why?
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A bit of bumpage, for the people who still haven't had an air frost! Me included, my lowest since the June Solstice is 0.6C a couple days back, and it's likely I won't hit it tonight. But you never know, 4.1C at Durham currently.
The Lake District/Pennines area should get a frost tonight - 1.3C at Shap already, many other stations on wunderground.com have got less there aswell. It's 1.1 at Great Asby (OON) along with Great Dun Fell (at 847m) reporting -2C at 21:50 (no update since then). Cold night for us Northerners!
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My 9.8C (Nu Design) is looking good so far! I think it'll be exactly 10C ATM.
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Take a look on the WD web site you should find out there as its very informative:
I just did and it takes these that are like yours:
the Huger/Radio Shack/Oregon Scientific WM918/WX200,WMR-918/WMR-968/WMR-928N,WMR100,WMR200,WM-900H,63-1016
Ah, no! WMR80 = Not supported.
Anyway, thanks for the help, but I may save up for a Davis or a Top-end La Crosse! Thanks alot though!
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am afraid i'll have to bump this...
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Having an N900, I use one which came with it as hardly anyone releases any apps for these Maemo based devices.
I know how you feel, the only down point on my beautiful N900
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I am wondering about getting a WMR80, a new one, but does it work with Weather Display or Weather Display Live?
Thanks.
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and here is another one which is live, it was snowing lightly earlier. I hope works
http://www.santaclau...kieli=eng&pid=3
Chris
Hahahaha, someone's just slipped in the snow
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Some new snowfall at Rovaniemi, Finland overnight. http://www.rovaniemi...ukio.asp?sek=10
Thanks for that, looks beautiful there right now. Noticeable new patch in Lapland today aswell.
For those of you who know about the ICEHOTEL, or would like to: http://www.icehotel.com/uk/ICEHOTEL/Webcam/
Started work over there now! Snow blowers yesterday, and now building has commenced...
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I can see a high is being placed over France/Spain area, should mean a possibly S'ly dominated November. Question is, will it stick for December, or will it be a complete reversal, like last year?
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Good question though I sussed this out for myself.
Stop being so pedantic
Im still waiting! No plagerising the METO forecast now.
IF thank you for putting together such a nice, no full of technical nonsense weather forecast. It was consise and had a methodology to it that actually made sense. You seperated the UK into regions instead of date zones which to me means Im not having to drag myself around reasing all about SE England. You used the CFS forecast and the Greenie High, which again Im sure will be the single most important meteorlogical factor this coming winter. And Yes Im delighted first class effort!
Look forward to January.
Thanks for the feedback. The zones are the most important part to me, as the papers usually read: SE England = UK.
Looking forward to your Dec-March forecast IF. It is people like you that make this Forum so interesting as Winter approaches. Keep up the good work!
Blush. Thanks. Will do the Ireland forecast for the winter soon!
Also thanks to everyone commenting, even tinmead, always interesting to learn new stuff...
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maybe he would add NI/I in later?
They will be added on my full December-March Forecast on December 4th.
The possible Bartlett High in FI could signal a slightly different start to December, if it's still there by then.
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Just another reason why I genuinely think the Daily Mail should be banned, and those that read it, shot.
Exactly. Friday Heavy Snow, on the top of the Highlands, maybe. Can't get it right from 2 days out!
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Nature's signs?
Well, I saw some white stuff on my way to my mate's on Wednesday morning...
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Yey! Building it up now, trucks there and everything! Might be going there in December, so great to see the process starting!
First Frost!
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Yep. Along with Tulloch Bridge and Woodford under -4C, Eskdalemuir at -6C, and Sennybridge at -6.1C.
I got my first air frost since May 12th here, at -1.4C.