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Aaron Roberts How is it there? Can you see across this side?
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Seeing if I can post a video. Across the valley looking at the top of Sowerby, the church is at around 200m.
EDIT: Hmm, that didn't work. What am I doing wrong?
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I've got a vantage point from my window whereby I can see the snow line. Was about 200m about half an hour ago, now dropping so it's mostly snow here at about 150m turning from sleet as the temperature drops to zero as predicted by MetO.
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Amber for here (Pennines, as elevation kicks in, so unsurprising), the one downside is the high winds making it a tough one to walk around in and to get pictures before the melt starts overnight.
It happening during the day is likely why they've gone for the amber so soon. Even so, I expect schools and businesses that try to open, finding themselves in a tough situation by mid afternoon.
Good luck to anyone across the area.
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All that Arpege is doing is giving southerners false hope! Greater gnashing of teeth in the MOD thread will ensue when 'snow north of the M4' doesn't happen.
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At this point I find it useful to look at the Wetterzentrale graphs, as it splits down temps/dew points and precipitation. This is UKMO but you can switch to Arpege etc. The UKMO has temps higher by about 0.3 degrees on the 6z as opposed to the 0z, matching ECM and Arpege with GFS slightly higher and ICON a bit higher than that (the latter being the only one to push temps in the chosen area (Halifax in this case), but not dew points, above freezing).
https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?model=ukmhd&var=92&geoid=49708&lid=OP&bw=1
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Nice little surprise this morning across Calderdale. Something like this was modelled a week ago but then dropped seemingly never to return.
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Favourite photo from today (about 11am). Around Pye Nest, Halifax.
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13 minutes ago, Gray-Wolf said:Light snow here in the Upper Calder Valley.....looks like we have a hour or so of it to come but no settling
Same here. Flakes sticking if not on roads/pavements but too few to make much of a difference.
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Turned to drizzle now. Just been through the town centre and it's snow free! You can see a clear snow line on the hills around now. Back of the house, in the sun, it's all gone but the front. which is always sun free, it's still there on the area in front of the house and pavement.
I could say that I had a couple of extra inches today but, in truth, it was the bottom half of the snow on the roof sliding off with a massive crump.
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Comically missing us here at most points. A bit too North, a bit too South! Spent an hour just off the southern edge of a lovely area of snow. Oh, well, we did well out of the last week anyway.
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Gone a bit wintry mix at the moment, below 150m-ish looks borderline for now.
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Just started getting a little bit heavier here but radar shows it should be lighter! Seems like the heaviest stuff is going south of here when it arrives.
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25 minutes ago, Gray-Wolf said:
Must have been a lot of 'essential journeys' on the M62 last night?
Even after days of warnings and an Amber MetO warning they still had to travel on one of the highest sections of motorway in England...in a Blizzard.....
Hmmmm......
Ah but the warning was for other people, not them. How were they to know that there were hundreds of others who thought the same?
I bet, when pushed, 90% of them had no reason that they had to travel at that time of the day or on that route.
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I was up and out early to get pictures before people like me go out and spoil the pure snow.
Photos from Sowerby Bridge, Crow Park,Wainhouse Tower and top of Wakefield Gate (cobbled lane but not so as you'd notice, see other photo from a previous small snowfall). From about 10cm in the town centre to double that going up to the outskirts of Halifax, 30cm in favoured places up top open to the easterlies. I didn't go any higher but can imagine it being more than that. Not quite Sheffield or Peak District but a whole lot more than I thought as of yesterday afternoon.
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It's been really hammering down here since I got back from my walkabout an hour and a half ago. Radar shows it's by no means over either. Probably a couple of inches from it so far.
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3 minutes ago, ukpaul said:
Just been out for a lovely snowy walk for a couple of hours. Big takeaway is altitude has made a huge difference. At home when I set out, 140m or so, no massive depths, pavements covered, side roads sort of and well gritted main roads meh. Walked through the wildest of the easterly blasts eastwards towards Halifax, picking up elevation and within 20 minutes it was a winter wonderland with cars crawling along, inches depth and a bit of a struggle walking, especially on cobbled bits. Like that for an hour or so climbing up to the Wainhouse Tower in Halifax. That was up at about 200m. Stayed around to admire the views then back down past the Wainhouse pub (tempted but didn't go in). On way back down notable change at about 125m on Pye Nest Road with a teady drip, drip and slushy underfoot. Through the centre and back up above Sowerby Bridge and about a quarter of a mile from home, the distinctive crunch of icy snow underfoot. Back home, as it was but a bit more depth, fluffy snow, still covering but in cm rather than in.
So, a big difference between 125m and 200m. Let's see what happens as the cold front comes across. I can see the 6 inches suggested for around here and up a bit by morning, will wake early and go and see when it's light. Will also remember to take a phone that has been charged next time.....
Oh, and the Netweather radar is way off. It's shown sleet here for hours but it's been all snow, even when it hasn't settled. Intensity picking up again now.
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Just been out for a lovely snowy walk for a couple of hours. Big takeaway is altitude has made a huge difference. At home when I set out, 140m or so, no massive depths, pavements covered, side roads sort of and well gritted main roads meh. Walked through the wildest of the easterly blasts eastwards towards Halifax, picking up elevation and within 20 minutes it was a winter wonderland with cars crawling along, inches depth and a bit of a struggle walking, especially on cobbled bits. Like that for an hour or so climbing up to the Wainhouse Tower in Halifax. That was up at about 200m. Stayed around to admire the views then back down past the Wainhouse pub (tempted but didn't go in). On way back down notable change at about 125m on Pye Nest Road with a teady drip, drip and slushy underfoot. Through the centre and back up above Sowerby Bridge and about a quarter of a mile from home, the distinctive crunch of icy snow underfoot. Back home, as it was but a bit more depth, fluffy snow, still covering but in cm rather than in.
So, a big difference between 125m and 200m. Let's see what happens as the cold front comes across. I can see the 6 inches suggested for around here and up a bit by morning, will wake early and go and see when it's light. Will also remember to take a phone that has been charged next time.....
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UKMO update at 6pm. Even more messy with more fronts than, errr, something with a lot of fronts.
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7 minutes ago, Harsh Climate said:
I think the triple point is here at the moment
This is the zero hour fax chart for 6pm.
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Ha! Looking out the front window I see snow settling well now, just looked out the back (about 10 metres lower) and it isn't. From that I conclude the snow line is currently right through my house.
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By the way, the West Yorkshire Railway isn't just for watching trains, it's got some good webcams as well.
Webcams - Keighley & Worth Valley Railway
KWVR.CO.UKAs you can see at the moment there's a big difference between Keighley station and up in Haworth.
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13 minutes ago, SouthYorks said:
Looking the radar animation I think we are starting to see the pivot begin over Ireland. The precip is still moving north east across England but there are hints in the circled area of some slight east south east movement. A good sign because it means everything to the west is eventually heading for us!
I think we’ll see continued north east movement of the precip over England for a good few hours yet, but the pivot point will start to become more obvious:as the evening progresses.
Observations suggest the system is currently just south west of Ireland, so that would be about right. It should move to just off Wales by 9pm moving directly east through the night, being over SE England by 6am (as per xcweather).
Someone asking about radar, if you take a look at Wunderground you can set it to move beyond now for some hours to see the projected path. It's a bit clunky but useful.
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Will probably go for a walk in a bit to check up higher and into the woods as well. Pretty heavy snow throughout the last hour or so but close inspection reveals something a bit weird. Pavements and Roads look like a bad case of dandruff gradually getting worse but, at the same moment, some flakes are sticking whereas similar sized flakes next to them are dissolving. Very peculiar, any idea as to what might cause that?
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Yorkshire and E England regional discussion - Dec 2023 onwards
in Yorkshire & E.England Weather Discussion
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Still pelting it down here, not stopped since mid-morning. Very impressive in its longevity and radar shows more to come. Went out for a walk in it for a couple of hours around lunchtime and, while it was pretty nasty for a while walking into the teeth of it, it was interesting to see the difference coming from elevation (I went down to 85m and up to 200m).
Also evident was westward facing hollows often having very limited snow, showing the effect of the high winds pushing it horizontal. Eastward facing with greater depths than elsewhere for the same reason.