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Dark Horse well I’d argue regular cycles of thawing and freezing are probably the worst from a slipping/falling perspective because most surfaces end up covered in ice. Climates that remain below freezing throughout winter don’t typically have that problem.
I think the winters of central Finland and Sweden are probably the best if you want winters that aren’t extremely cold but don’t have frequent thaw-freeze cycles either.
I do find this discussion interesting though because if you asked random people on the street in Latvia what they think of their climate I’m sure the response would be overwhelmingly negative precisely because the winters are dark and cold. Most people from Northern Europe would happily spend all winter in the Canary Islands instead.
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Dark Horse winters in Latvia have warmed significantly over the past 30 years as well unfortunately. They are obviously still much colder than the UK but I certainly wouldn't go there expecting a winter wonderland from December to March. Indeed a big reason for the lack of cold in the UK today is precisely because our usual sources of cold (Scandinavia and Eastern Europe) are much less cold than they used to be.
Looking at Riga specifically, summer temperatures are on par with South East England. Average yearly rainfall is 674mm which is similar to most of eastern, central and southern England (it's about 70mm higher than my nearest weather station). Summer sunshine is on par with the south coast but winter sunshine is on par with Glasgow.
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Met Office showing 9 hours of heavy snow here at 85m asl. It was showing alternating sleet, rain and snow before. Still doubtful much if any of it will settle but I guess time will tell.
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Schnee I think there’s a good chance the front doesn’t even reach here. Arpege only has very light precipitation reaching Leeds.
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Hoping that the models continue to shift the front further south, maybe we can get away with a dry day on Thursday while other places get to enjoy the slush.
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The Met Office warnings are starting to look a bit silly now with how far south some of the models have shifted. Arpege has snow flirting with London now, with Leeds potentially staying dry all together.
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East Lancs Rain I'd be happy with an average summer too, but I will always prefer warmer than average.
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Here at 85m asl I'm not expecting much, maybe a slushy centimetre. An entire day of heavy wet snow that struggles to accumulate sounds like a nightmare.
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raz.org.rain it was similar on that record breaking day in July 2019 with a hot wind, but still a few degrees cooler.
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East Lancs Rain Last spring was a real slow burner, with the first 20C+ days only appearing in mid-May. That was the main issue. April was particularly lacklustre in terms of temperature - we had a higher maximum temperature in March than April for example. The highest temp in April here was only 16.6C, normally we'd see at least 1 day over 20C.
March was also quite wet.
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39.8C was recorded at Bramham in Leeds. The wind was genuinely hot like a hairdryer. There was hardly a soul to be seen on that day. We also had two consecutive lows above 20C.
It was a surreal experience.
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Wingman Blue higher elevations are wetter and duller though. It’s not worth the extra bit of snow.
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The near-term output is horrible to be honest. Cold rain for most, maybe even freezing rain. Maybe snow for higher elevations.
We've been mild and mostly dry for the past week which I don't mind. Cold and wet is most unwelcome.
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TheOgre the recent weather has been fine actually - mild but predominantly dry.
The forecast is dire though - cold and wet, but not cold enough for snow. Highs of 5C with rain. Truly the worst of both worlds.
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SunSean the Met Office were forecasting cloud all day here but we've had some sunshine.
I'll take today's weather for the rest of winter quite happily tbh
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cheeky_monkey don't forget those zealots who think the earth is round. why can't they just respect those of us who think the earth is flat?
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I'm all for riling up climate change deniers tbh. Good entertainment if nothing else.
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I didn’t realise Rochdale was so wet! Yes without the Pennines I suspect our average rainfall would meet somewhere in the middle. Snow streamers from the North Sea would probably reach the Isle of Man lol
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raz.org.rain locally, June was pretty good (though there was one nasty day with a high of 12C early on). July was very good (even if it was too hot during that exceptional heatwave). August however was simply excellent - I’ve sung the praise of August 2022 many times on here already but it really was a classic summer month.
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marky810 the heavy stuff isn't crossing the Pennines though, so I think we'll be fine.
Today is actually a pretty good example of the Pennine rain shadow in action:
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1 hour ago, kold weather said:
probably because there are just a metric shedload more warm records than cold records, I think globally its currently running something like 10-12x more warm than cold so of course its going to seem like the warmer stuff is getting the attention because there just is more of it.
yeah, I don't understand why this would bother anyone. Cold records are few and far between, warm records are a monthly occurrence. That's the reality of the world we live in.
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35 minutes ago, Metwatch said:
All months are warming but the ones that have warmed the slowest in terms of the CET are March and December.
December is mainly due to 2 freak cold ones which are 1981 and 2010. Then for March it might be due to the late season SSW's, which could be getting more common but i'm not as sure on that. Quite a few chilly Marches last few decades, but mainly in the 80s and 2013. 2018 with that very cold start and middle as well. There are a few more in there i'm sure.
On the other hand, I find that 20C+ days in March are becoming more common. There was obviously March 2012 which was exceptionally warm, but here we also saw 20C+ temps in March 2021 and March 2022. Before March 2012 I don't think I had ever even experienced a 20C+ day in March.
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@TheOgre Parts of Norway are much worse in the winter imo - I'm thinking the SW coast, around Bergen etc. They mostly just get lots and lots of cold rain.
Bergen has an average high of 5.3C & an average low of 1.0C in December, with 290mm of rain, 19 days of rain, and 12 hours of sun. Can anywhere in the UK match that level of awfulness?
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@In Absence of True Seasons tbf the UK-wide stats are pretty much useless because most of the population lives in much drier areas. I imagine most people in the UK live in areas with under 800mm of rain, and a big percentage lives in areas with under 700mm.
My closest station gets 603mm of rain with 114 days of rain on average. Compare that to somewhere like Cologne in western Germany which gets 802mm of rain with 187 days of rain - that would be a very wet year for us.
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in Spring Weather Discussion
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reef Indeed. Getting sunnier-than-average months in winter is like a double-edged sword. In one sense it's good because any sunshine at this time of year helps, but at the same time it almost feels like a waste when I think most of us would rather have a sunnier-than-average summer.