SnowObsessor90

It's like proper raining hail again round here just at this moment.

Speaking of which your weather station was just picking up 7c for a second there for some reason, it's gone now though.

It's still producing heavy hail though from what I can see if nothing else.

Another quick hail shower came down round these parts as well again just then. Loving it

Just heard something like that outside, thought it was just heavy rain but oh well, hopefully there's more where that cane from.

That can't be right, I live in Runcorn and first dumping of snow I had did fall in late November.

it's between and 5 and 6c over the last hour or so now rising 5.8c. Now I know the chances of wintry precipitation are only very marginal for this area but with the -5 uppers soon to be on there way you'd like to think that things would get cooler but no real sign of that at the minute. Grrrrrgh, this is so frustrating

Think I'm just going to try and pretend I never saw the last few posts.

Yep, that does indeed seem to be the case at the minute In terms of which one I'd personally prefer it would have to be Mark Vogans, in terms of what I think would be most plausible however it would be GPs. What we'll actually get is another story altogether though, it might lean more towards one or another, somewhere in between or something completely different. In any case interesting times are certainly ahead.

Interesting indeed. Is it what I would ideally want? no and there's a fair chance a could be well over my current diagnosis of "Snowmonia" by that point what with Christmas and New Year to keep me occupied but as a late surprise would I take it? Absolutely just so would everybody else here I'm sure. When you think about this winter could still work out very well for everybody concerned in the end even if things don't look particularly great at the minute. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for something in the way of cold before then however even if it's only minor/brief.

What was the general mood round these parts back in 2009 by the way. Was it like is now with a few people seemingly looking for things that aren't there with general opinion in the main being doom and gloom or was it a bit more positive? Now I'm suggesting for a second that it'll definitely have any relation at all to how things go winter, just interested that's all.

Don't really care much for Madden nowadays, "I expect widespread snow across many parts of the UK in October and November" nuff said really. That said following imminent pattern change into more autumnal/average conditions for the time of year who knows what could happen beyond that. Will it eventually lead to another proper cold spell well or will the wet and windy them we're just about to enter dominate for the most part with a few brief cold shots thrown in if there's any at all? Most would say that the latter is looking more likely at the moment and you'd be pushed to disagree with them based on the current output but we'll see.

Absolutely cannot for the euro high to back of over the next few days to make way for more usual conditions for the time of year and hopefully it never comes back to bother us again at least until the spring and beyond. I certainly wouldn't count my chickens on that being the case yet though.

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To be honest I'm getting that frustrated now that I'm actually thinking about taking a step back from model watching and the weather in general for a bit and dropping my winter expectations to a much more reasonable level i.e not much. All this constant stressing over the models not showing anything just isn't worth it. what comes will come, what doesn't simply won't and there's nothing I can do about that. Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love the cold and snow but perhaps the best course of action this time is to expect the worst but hope for the best.

Several people over on the model output discussion are now suggesting that this euro could still stick around for quite some time yet. Where there would leave winter as whole if that were to verify I have no idea but it certianly wouldn't be a good start that is for sure, without even typical autumn /winter weather settling in who knows how long it'll take for the cold weather to arrive if it even does at all. Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but that's the thing we're hoping and clinging on to a few charts that look good rather than expecting at the moment which says it all about how things are currently..

The last run wasn't great from a coldies fan perspective compared to the last the few but in general the models over the last few days are starting to show more and more signs of us potentially finally seeing back of that euro high to at least more average conditions if nothing else. No it doesn't guarantee instant cold or anything colder further down the line but its a step in the right direction at the very least, like many others have said it could just be a matter of patience this winter.

You're right of course but that still doesn't stop me from getting aggravated (well inside my head at least), i guess it's massively in no small part due to how good the previous two winters were (from a coldies perspective) which in turn has led me to this places like this forum in anticipation for the winter ahead. If it wasn't for all that then probably wouldn't be the nervous wreck I am now but oh well.

The thing that frustrates me most at the minute aside from extremely annoyingly persistent euro high are all the TV weather presenters going "oh look how great the weather is" when in reality it's anything but at least from point of view.. If they're still saying this when we're well into December then I swear I will lose it. I don't really think it'll come to that as this pattern surely can't last forever but that said by the time we get there I probably be fuming for temperatures only being round about average although I'd gladly take that at the minute .

Okay I know it's just in FI and I should take it with a pinch of salt, the same being the case if it was showing some more positive colder solutions like it has done briefly over the last day or so but I have to say that euro is really starting to get my back up now.

It was down to 6C for most of the day but seems to be rising a bit, now up to about 7C and probably higher as we enter tomorrow. But oh well it was fun while it lasted.

Arghhhhhh.., I really wish that bartlet/euro high or whatever it is would just disappear never to be seen again until the summer at least but it really isn't that simple is it. You'd like to think that this pattern won't last forever but at moment I just feel like.

it's be mainly dull and chilly round these parts today with temperatures struggling to get above 6C quite a bit of the time. Such a shame that days like these have been an extremely rare occurrence over last month or so, sure it's nothing special and if it were well into deep winter we'd tearing our hair out that things weren't getting any cooler but i'd certainly take it over the mild dross we've had lately and look set to continue getting for the foreseeable.

Good to see that at least you two are staying optimistic. Who knows, come late December, January or even early February we could very well be looking back at this period laughing and wondering what the fuss was all about. Fingers crossed, eh.

Anyone on here have any idea when the euro/Bartlett high last persisted so stubbornly? Cheers