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Sun noticeably lower in the sky earlier in the evenings now.
I'll never wish any season/month away, but I've got a taste for those mellow September/October days, when it's still warm but the trees are turning and the sun is less intense and lower in the sky at all times of the day.
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I was seeing someone from Stockport at the time of the 09/10 event and I can tell you now I think I'd have preferred that event than that of Dec '10 if I lived there too! I remember her struggling down here early Jan '10 and me being shocked that there was still a solid foot of snow iced on to the top of her car when she got here, never seen anything like it. There was about 3cm lying here!
It was an unbelievably potent streamer event and it still cuts me up that I missed it all by about 12 miles!
You poor sod!
But yeah, Jan 2010 is still the benchmark in terms of snow and cold for me, beating Dec 10 for temperatures and snow depth. It was the closest I've come to experiencing "proper" winter conditions, as per most places on our latitude.
In terms of snow in Stockport, I'm fairly central and low-lying, so not the best location in theory, yet I have seen some spectacular snow events here over the last 5 years. Stockport rapidly rises in altitude to the east, and places like Marple can genuinely get pasted with snow, it settles earlier, deeper and lasts longer round that way, to the point that winter there can actually be relatively "severe" by UK standards.
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14.4C.
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I always have low expectations of autumn but this year please PLEASE PLEASE can we avoid boring dross like October 2014 and November 2011, not merely for sanity's sake but so that cold pool out in the Atlantic doesn't vanish just in time for winter. It's the very least Mother Nature owes us at the moment.
Interesting to note the behaviour of low pressure systems these past three months, so many have spiralled in situ just to our NW and crossed to the NE pulling down NW/N airflows, a similar set up in winter would reinforce the cold SST's and it would be a potent polar maritime fest, snow galore for the NW quarter of the country.. quite likely to produce significant cold air advection over mid atlantic and our shores on occasion, warm air advection over central Europe and scandi blocked by a major strong ridge/high pressure over western Russia.
For our region in particular that North Atlantic cold anomaly could be a significant player, so I'm keen for it to remain or even grow and intensify as Autmumn drags on and winter arrives.
That snowfall in late January this year from a NW airflow was spectacular while it lasted, as was the Boxing Day 2014 fall. This time round, should the low Atlantic SST's remain, we may be on the right side of marginal far more often. A potential snowy "cold zonality" winter on the way?
A very, very early ramp!
Anyway, knowing our luck, that cold pool will disappear by mid November and/or the Northwesterlies will die off. The one time I'd want some weather off the Atlantic we'll probably get a raging beasterly...
...with that being said, I'd take it!
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I know it sounds ridiculous now, but I was actually slightly disappointed with December 2010 at the time, after what I'd experienced in January 2010.December 2010...will we ever see its like again? A magical month that was. Stunning photos there WH.
Locally, Jan 2010 recorded lower temperatures and deeper snow than Dec 2010. Yes, it wasn't as prolonged as the spell in December, but for me Jan 2010 is still the benchmark for winter weather in the UK.
I sum it up by saying my recollection of Jan 2010 is of wading through snow, while Dec 2010 it was slipping on ice.
In Jan 2010 nearby Woodford was sub -17C for 2 nights in a row, and nearly as cold for a while longer. The -14C or-so achieved the following December seemed like a letdown! I couldn't figure out why it didn't get colder, despite the favourable conditions.
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I thought this was an obscure anagram, which I then googled, when unable to work out...
Doesn't sound the best tbh.
We all know about Eno in the North West...
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Eno Eruotor...
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Pretty much. Heat bottled up across the heart of Europe.
Western Russia in the freezer. The Alps on fire!
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Today's minimum is 10.5C while maxima look like reaching just the 16s, so a drop to 16.7C is likely on tomorrows update.
After that, the 06z GFS has the CET at:
16.6C to the 25th (14.8: -2.2)
16.5C to the 26th (13.2: -4.0)
16.5C to the 27th (15.9: -1.3)
16.4C to the 28th (14.4: -3.0)
16.3C to the 29th (13.0: -4.7)
16.2C to the 30th (14.2: -3.2)
16.1C to the 31st (13.5: -3.7)
Today's GFS goes even colder than yesterday, 3.2C below the 81-10 average for the last 8 days. If today's run is correct, the last 10 days of this July could be the coldest since 1966.
Wow, imagine if we ended up in the 15's after corrections! Would be very impressive given how the month started.
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Seriously, keep it up. Your contributions to this thread are brilliant
Agreed!
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Yeah, 45C is extremely warm, even in the hottest places on earth. I'd say such a temperature in the UK is actually impossible, considering continental Germany on a similar latitude to us has only scraped past 40C.Considering that France hasn't even managed 45c before, I'd put the chance of us seeing that as virtually nil.
Even 40c would be a big ask.
45C is about the average summer high in Furnace Creek, California - the place that recorded the official world record high temperature and is probably the warmest place on earth for summer maxima.
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Good stuff, BFTV. Looking forward to it!No other year has even come close to the difference between June 1st and July 1st at least.
As for any 30/31 day period, I'll see if I can figure that one out...
Off the top of my head I'm thinking maybe a date in mid Feb 1947, and then mid March when the thaw came. It was quite abrupt, apparently? Even so, that would take a CET average of around -5C to +10C, respectively.
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yes frost on cars ...
It's not that cold!
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The temperature has fallen in London from 27 to 26. Still good though.
Another world here, I'm not kidding when I say it's cool enough to see my breath.
Seriously.
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Wow, surprisingly cool out there, car windows have condensation on them and can see my breath!
Would never have guessed it was so warm the day before.
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June 1st came in at 9.5C in the CET zone, it'll be interesting to see the difference between it and July 1st.
Substantial is an understatement...
July 1st came in at 24.5C, a full 15C warmer than June 1st!
There can't have been many instances in the CET history in which two dates within 30/31 days of each other have seen such a disparity in temperature.
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To be honest, I'm surprised July has never recorded 37C+ before, given that the June and September records are pushing 36C, and that the height of Summer is in late July/ early August. The July record afterall is less than a degree hotter than the June and September records, and the August record is a full two degrees hotter. That just doesn't seem right!
Perhaps the 36-38C range is around the upper limit for the UK, regardless of the time of year, with late June-early September the window for it.
Kinda like how we have recorded -27.2C in every winter month, with late December to mid February the window for that, but haven't managed to drop lower.
You get the impression it would take something extremely exceptional to reach either 40C or -30 here, with a "perfect storm" of factors all having to come together.
I always find it odd when places abroad can completely obliterate records, by 5-10C, or even more in cases, yet in the UK we usually stumble over the line by 0.1C or so.
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Well that's what the thermometer in my garden was showing. Not official obviously, but does show local variation.
https://twitter.com/ScottRichards97/status/616247765618819072
Not saying you're lying by any means, Scott! I just thought it looked a little high is all.
I suppose you aren't too far from Rochdale, so you may well have been the warmest place in the NW today.
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Just had my dream summer's day today! A 34C, mostly sunny day followed by an absolute belter of a thunderstorm, with near-constant lightning.
Thank you weather gods!
34C?? That seems a little high. According to Diane on BBC weather tonight the hotspot in our region was Rochdale at 31C...
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June 1st came in at 9.5C in the CET zone, it'll be interesting to see the difference between it and July 1st.
Substantial is an understatement...
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Heavy rain here now, lightning getting more frequent and seemingly closer.
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Amazing lightning show going on 7 miles to my south west in the Manchester area - no cg strikes just between clouds but very frequent.
Yeah, going off in the distance to the west. Dry here.
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"Huge plume of boiling air"
Wouldn't that result in, say, temperatures around 100C, rather than the lowly 40C they're predicting with certainty?
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Here's a list from TORRO on the top 100 hottest days ever recorded in the UK. Unfortunately, it only shows the highest temp recorded in a day, and ignores the 2nd, 3rd, ect which may still be higher than others on the list.
(Apologies, it's not very easy on the eye. I can't get the formatting right to get it in a table)
It'll be interesting to see where Wednesday lands on this list
1st 38.5 10/08/2003
2nd 37.1 03/08/1990
3rd 36.7 09/08/1911
4th 36.6 02/08/1990
5th 36.5 19/08/2006
6th 36.4 05/08/2003
7th 36.1 06/08/2003
8th 36.1 19/08/1932
9th 36 22/08/1911
10th 35.9 03/07/1976
11th 35.7 02/07/1976
12th 35.6 28/06/1976
13th 35.6 29/06/1957
14th 35.6 13/07/1923
15th 35.6 13/08/1911
16th 35.6 02/09/1906
17th 35.5 27/06/1976
18th 35.4 26/06/1976
19th 35.2 01/08/1995
20th 35.2 02/08/1990
21st 35.2 04/08/1990
22nd 35.1 20/08/1900
23rd 35 29/06/1957
24th 35 12/07/1923
25th 35 15/07/1881
26th 35 28/08/1948
27th 35 14/08/1876
28th 35 18/08/1932
29th 35 01/09/1906
30th 34.9 31/08/1906
31st 34.8 01/07/1961
32nd 34.8 05/08/2003
33rd 34.8 02/09/1906
34th 34.7 11/08/2003
35th 34.7 18/08/1893
36th 34.6 08/09/1911
37th 34.4 03/06/1947
38th 34.4 05/07/1959
39th 34.4 11/07/1921
40th 34.4 16/08/1881
41st 34.4 27/08/1933
42nd 34.4 29/08/1948
43rd 34.4 29/08/1930
44th 34.3 22/06/1941
45th 34.3 06/07/1976
46th 34.3 22/08/1989
47th 34.2 08/08/1975
48th 34.2 03/09/1906
49th 34.1 04/07/1976
50th 34.1 08/07/1941
51st 34.1 16/08/1900
52nd 34.1 11/08/1884
53rd 34 21/08/1911
54th 34 07/08/1975
55th 33.9 17/06/1917
56th 33.9 22/06/1941
57th 33.9 01/07/1961
58th 33.9 10/07/1921
59th 33.9 08/01/1900
60th 33.9 31/08/1943
61st 33.9 12/08/1911
62nd 33.9 13/08/1911
63rd 33.9 16/08/1947
64th 33.9 17/08/1947
65th 33.9 22/08/1918
66th 33.9 27/08/1942
67th 33.9 28/08/1930
68th 33.8 30/06/1957
69th 33.7 12/08/1953
70th 33.6 15/08/1876
71st 33.6 22/08/1995
72nd 33.5 25/06/1976
73rd 33.4 23/08/1989
74th 33.4 07/09/1898
75th 33.3 02/06/1947
76th 33.3 06/06/1950
77th 33.3 07/07/1893
78th 33.3 07/07/2023
79th 33.3 18/08/2006
80th 33.3 19/08/1901
81st 33.3 26/08/1885
82nd 33.3 30/08/1948
83rd 33.3 29/08/1930
84th 33.3 07/09/1911
85th 33.1 07/06/1996
86th 33 21/08/1995
87th 32.8 09/06/1940
88th 32.8 19/06/2005
89th 32.8 07/07/1923
90th 32.8 26/08/1964
91st 32.8 05/09/1949
92nd 32.7 07/07/1976
93rd 32.7 17/08/2006
94th 32.6 24/01/1900
95th 32.5 25/08/1976
96th 32.4 24/06/1976
97th 32.3 14/07/1983
98th 32.3 20/08/1995
99th 32.3 04/09/1940
100th 32.2 08/06/1915
Early August is the King of warm, going off that. Although I'm pretty sure that 36.5C temp was actually July 2006, not August.
I also didn't realise it got so warm in January 1900...
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